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Self-Banished
Group: Members
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Posted on: Apr. 20 2015,5:54 pm |
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No really, he's done a lot of research and though I think he's pretty wacked most of the time he has covered this well.
-------------- Remember boys and girls,
Don’t be a Dick …
Or a “Wayne”
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Post Number: 62
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Post Number: 63
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Post Number: 64
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
Group: Members
Posts: 3664
Joined: Jul. 2009
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Posted on: Apr. 20 2015,9:56 pm |
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Can I ask why Al Brooks Assessed Market Value on his home has dropped 23% since 2012 and those on the south end of Virginia Place has dropped only 9%?
I will wait for your answer..
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Post Number: 65
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
Group: Members
Posts: 3664
Joined: Jul. 2009
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,1:03 am |
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I didn't call Jahnke a liar, I said he would make for a bad liar..
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Post Number: 66
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nzeroesc
Group: Super Administrators
Posts: 258
Joined: Aug. 2005
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,2:02 am |
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(alcitizens @ Apr. 20 2015,9:56 pm)
QUOTE Can I ask why Al Brooks Assessed Market Value on his home has dropped 23% since 2012 and those on the south end of Virginia Place has dropped only 9%?
I will wait for your answer.. Jesus you have it out for this guy. Have you talked to your doctor about Prozac™ lately?
The assessed value for the property located across the street from his has dropped by only 5%, however it is a rental, apparently poorly maintained, and is worth substantially less than those around it. Most of the value is in the land rather than the dwelling.
The assessed value of the property to the south of Al has decreased by 25%. Owner occupied. To the west, across the alley a decrease of 24%.
The neighborhood is going through a decline, and many of the properties in the last few years that were owner occupied are seeing people move away or pass on and properties are more and more frequently becoming rentals, which, like it or not, tends to decrease property values.
Nothing against whoever you are personally, and only gathering from your posts that you live or have a personally vested interest in Virginia Pl, but that happened to that street a long time ago, and there isn't any farther down the property values can go there for the vast majority of the properties on it.
I think you need to take a brief Macroeconomics and/or finance course to understand how municipal finances work so you can stop railing on the "city" for not wanting to pick up the entire tab for a project when at the same time bitching about how every other project gets done. You don't seem to understand that for those projects, there were property owners and property value to assess the project costs to.
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Post Number: 67
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Liberal
Group: Moderator
Posts: 11451
Joined: Aug. 2003
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,3:08 am |
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WTF? The neighborhood will decline more with roads like that, and part of being a city is that we share costs, so that roads like that are kept up.
Minnow is a terrible councilman, he's a nice guy and that's why he won the last popularity contest, but I really think he's a terrible councilman. .
-------------- The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
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nzeroesc
Group: Super Administrators
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,8:36 am |
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@Liberal
If fixing and repaving roads worked to improve neighborhoods in any significant way, shouldn't you in theory been a supporter of the pathway of rusted totem poles, or the downtown revitalization, no matter the cost to the taxpayers?
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Post Number: 70
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was1
Group: Members
Posts: 1880
Joined: Apr. 2015
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Posted on: Apr. 21 2015,8:59 am |
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You are correct, you did not outright call City Engineer Jahnke a liar, it did seem implied, as do your numerous references to Councilor Brooks doing things illegally and getting kickbacks.
I need some clarification from you. You want city to purchase more properties on Virginia? Why? What is your plan then? Seems to me that with the City owning a large portion of the properties now, and many other vacant, that there is not enough property owners to spread the assessments to. You’ve never said if you live on Virginia, seems implied though. So, how much are you willing to pay on your assessment to get the water main and services, sanitary sewer main and services, all the storm sewer, and all the pavement, curb and gutter and sidewalks replaced?
What swamp land did the city pay for $25,000 an acre? Was this an actual property purchase or was this purchasing of wetland credits for a project? Big difference it that was the case.
I’m sure you can request from the city a list of all the construction projects and their costs over the years. I believe they are in the annual report so you should be able to get a copy of all the annual reports going back as far as you want to see how much has been spent in each Ward over the years. I do know that Frank Avenue was the first total reconstruction (will full utility replacements) the City had done in many, many years. Could have been possibly the first one ever.
Also, my $3 Million number is way low for all that work in Ward 6. I would bet that Frank was in the $1M range as was James. Throw the different surfacing projects and mill and overlay projects together for at least another $1M and that alone is $3M. St Joseph was probably like $400K. And if Myers and Crossroads areas were also done those together had to be well over $1M. So I would bet in the range of $5-$6 at least.
Sometimes it is more cost effective to continue to let a street and its underlying infrastructure to degrade and put your infrastructure $ elsewhere, where you will get more bang for your buck.
You’ve noted that Virginia has few property owners, that the city owns a lot of it. Seems like it is a very low traveled roadway. It does appear to have some safety issues with the bad sidewalk and curbing. Do you know of any injuries that have occurred to people who have been walking on the sidewalk? Why don’t you request this information from the City as well? While you are at it, get a copy of the soil report, all feasibility reports that have been done for Virginia, and most recent traffic counts. With that information you can then decide if the $ is best used for this couple blocks of street or would be better used elsewhere.
You can ask Councilor Brooks why his assessed market value dropped, but I don’t believe he is an assessor so I would bet he has no idea. Are you a property assessor? Do you know exactly how the process works?
I’m really confused as to why you are asking for permission to do such things (ask the city for a summary of projects and their costs, ask Councilor Brooks about his market value, etc.). Is there a reason you need permission to do these things from people on this forum?
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