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In that second Trey Gowdy/DHS video, director Morton says, "We release thousands every month." And "We release many DUI offenders every month."
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in 2009, ICE established its Office of Detention Policy and Planning, which oversees day-to-day detention reforms while designing a new detention system that aligns with our nation’s values. ICE also conducted a nationwide deployment of a new automated Risk Classification Assessment instrument to improve transparency and uniformity in detention custody and classification decisions reflecting the agency's civil enforcement priorities, this assessment contains objective criteria to guide decision making, regarding whether an alien should be detained or released
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As the Committee knows, we are coming to the end of a Continuing Resolution (CR). This CR funded ICE to maintain a yearly average daily population of approximately 34,000 individuals. In early February, ICE was maintaining an average daily population in excess of 35,000 individuals, including many who did not require detention by law.


http://www.dhs.gov/news...n-house

So how long have they been releasing thousands a month? Since 2009? If that's true, why the big media hype about it now all of a sudden?

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Stag Arms is following Colt Competition out of the state of Connecticut after new laws were voted in.  PTR Industries also followed suit in announcing they would be leaving the state.  A spokeman for PTR says it is encouraging other companiesw to do the same following last weeks signing of new gun laws.

PTR Industries has 42 employees.  Indirectly, they employ 15 to 20 local vendors at any given time who have up to 15 to 30 employees each.  Stag Arms currently employs more than 200 people.  Colt Competition, part of Colt Manufacturing arm, Bold Idea of Oregon will be setting up shop in Texas most likely.  Texas seems to be reaping the benefits everytime liberal government infringes on the Constitution.

No wonder there's been talk of Texas seceding from the Union.  :D

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I like PTR's stuff :cool:

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Sixteen.  Here's the list.

Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.)

Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.)

Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.)

Sen. Saxby Chambliss  (R-Ga.)

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.)

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine)

Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.)

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.)

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)

Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.)

Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)

Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.)

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.)

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.)

Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)

These people have some real explaining to do.  Disgraceful is putting it mildly.  One step closer to registry.


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Apr 11, 2013

Today, Senators Mike Lee (UT), Rand Paul (KY) and Ted Cruz (TX) released the following statement regarding the pending vote on the motion to proceed to new gun control legislation:

"This morning the Senate will vote on the motion to proceed to the firearms bill (S.649). It is expected that the Toomey-Manchin provision announced yesterday will replace the current language regarding background checks. Yet, as of this morning, not a single senator has been provided the legislative language of this provision.  Because the background-check measure is the centerpiece of this legislation it is critical that we know what is in the bill before we vote on it.  The American people expect more and deserve better.

"Unfortunately, the effort to push through legislation that no one had read highlights one of the primary reasons we announced our intention to force a 60 vote threshold.  We believe the abuse of the process is how the rights of Americans are systematically eroded and we will continue to do everything in our power to prevent it."
http://www.paul.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=765

As I have argued on this floor, in the national media, and back home in Utah, we should not be legislating by using closed door, back room deals away from the eyes of the American people.  We should not be voting before we understand exactly how these proposals will affect the rights of law abiding citizens and whether we can say with any level of certainty that they will reduce crime.

This is exactly why we need more debate and why I ask my colleagues to vote no on cloture – so senators and the American people can fully understand the consequences of this legislation.
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Posted on PTR91 website their statement concerning the trambling of the Constitution.

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A STATEMENT CONCERNING MANUFACTURING ENCOURAGEMENT, ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND PROTECTION OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF CITIZENS.
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This past week an historic and highly controversial bill was passed by the State of Connecticut which will have far reaching consequences to the state, its citizens, and businesses. The bill we refer to is Bill No. 1160, AN ACT CONCERNING GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND CHILDRENS SAFETY. This bill purports to reduce gun violence by banning hardware responsible for less than 3% of homicides in 2011 ; and claims to increase children’s safety by restricting the ability of those most responsible for it – their parents – to defend them.
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As a firearms manufacturing firm, our industrial roots reach deep in the State of CT. Along with other companies in the trade, we were deeply apprehensive at the hurried process to develop new gun laws and fearful that it would generate unintended consequences for our industry. On Thursday April 4th 2013, upon reading the full text of Bill 1160, our worst fears were confirmed. What emerged was a bill fraught with ambiguous definitions, insufficient considerations for the trade, conflicting mandates, and disastrous consequences for the fundamental rights of the people of CT.
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The magnitude of the constitutional and economic importance of this bill is such that the disregard for public input (in the final version), and the haphazard production of the legislation should be insulting to any citizen or business in CT. It should be a shock to us all that such landmark legislation could be written in one week, and seen by no one (including the rank-and-file legislators) prior to its emergency certification. Having been present in the deliberations in both legislative chambers, it was clear that a majority of our legislators had not even read the bill – and those that had read it had only a cursory understanding.
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The process with which this legislation proceeded, along with the language that resulted gives us no confidence that this will be the last violation of our rights in our beloved home state, and we only hope that this does not set a precedent at a national level.
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The rights of the citizens of CT have been trampled upon. The safety of its children is at best questionably improved from the day of the tragedy that triggered the events that lead us here. Finally, due to an improperly drafted bill, manufacturing of modern sporting rifles in the State of CT has been effectively outlawed. With a heavy heart but a clear mind, we have been forced to decide that our business can no longer survive in Connecticut – the former Constitution state.
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Furthermore, we feel that our industry as a whole will continue to be threatened so long as it remains in a state where its elected leaders have no regard for the rights of those who produce and manufacture its wealth. We are making a call to all involved in our industry to leave this state, close your doors and show our politicians the true consequences of their hasty and uninformed actions. We encourage those in our industry to abandon this state as its leaders have abandoned the proud heritage that forged our freedom.
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Although PTR has not decided upon a specific relocation site at this time, over the coming weeks the company will be actively considering offers from states that are friendly to the industry. We hope to have a site identified within the next six weeks, and hope to have our move completed by the end of this year. We plan to keep our business partners informed on the status of our move throughout this process in order to affect a smooth transition.
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We have extended the invitation to join us in the move to all of our employees, as well as all of our vendors. We are pleased to say that we currently have commitments to move from a majority of our employees, which includes ALL of our management personnel, engineering staff and skilled gunsmiths.
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It is our hope and sincere belief that this move will represent a step forward for the company; and that by bringing our expertise and core personnel to combine with the business friendly policies, and a motivated local labor force from a state that respects industry and the second amendment that we can expand our operations and not only maintain – but increase the quality and reputation of our products.
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Please direct any questions or inquiries to John McNamara, Vice President of Sales, at john@ptr91.com or at our main phone number.


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You got it all figured out now, so why don't you load up your ammo and freeze dried food and go crawl in a hole. We'll let you know when it's safe to come out.

I don't want to be the first to say I told you so but...

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Democratic Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass., at the opening of the hearing, ridiculed the concerns as "conspiracy theories" which have "no place" in the committee room.

But Republicans said the purchases raise "serious" questions about waste and accountability.

Chaffetz, who chairs one of the House oversight subcommittees holding the hearing Thursday, revealed that the department currently has more than 260 million rounds in stock. He said the department bought more than 103 million rounds in 2012 and used 116 million that same year -- among roughly 70,000 agents.

Comparing that with the small-arms purchases procured by the U.S. Army, he said the DHS is churning through between 1,300 and 1,600 rounds per officer, while the U.S. Army goes through roughly 350 rounds per soldier.

He noted that is "roughly 1,000 rounds more per person."

"Their officers use what seems to be an exorbitant amount of ammunition," he said.


You can take this information several ways but regardless, he has a point.

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While Democrats likened concerns about the purchases to conspiracy theories, Republicans raised concern about the sheer cost of the ammunition.

"This is not about conspiracy theories, this is about good government," Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who chairs the full Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said he suspects rounds are being stockpiled, and then either "disposed of," passed to non-federal agencies, or shot "indiscriminately."

If that is the case, he said, "then shame on you."


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You got it all figured out now, so why don't you load up your ammo and freeze dried food and go crawl in a hole. We'll let you know when it's safe to come out.

I don't want to be the first to say I told you so but...

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Democratic Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass., at the opening of the hearing, ridiculed the concerns as "conspiracy theories" which have "no place" in the committee room.

But Republicans said the purchases raise "serious" questions about waste and accountability.

Chaffetz, who chairs one of the House oversight subcommittees holding the hearing Thursday, revealed that the department currently has more than 260 million rounds in stock. He said the department bought more than 103 million rounds in 2012 and used 116 million that same year -- among roughly 70,000 agents.

Comparing that with the small-arms purchases procured by the U.S. Army, he said the DHS is churning through between 1,300 and 1,600 rounds per officer, while the U.S. Army goes through roughly 350 rounds per soldier.

He noted that is "roughly 1,000 rounds more per person."

"Their officers use what seems to be an exorbitant amount of ammunition," he said.


You can take this information several ways but regardless, he has a point.

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While Democrats likened concerns about the purchases to conspiracy theories, Republicans raised concern about the sheer cost of the ammunition.

"This is not about conspiracy theories, this is about good government," Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who chairs the full Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said he suspects rounds are being stockpiled, and then either "disposed of," passed to non-federal agencies, or shot "indiscriminately."

If that is the case, he said, "then shame on you."


Don't be a hater because the liberal elites tell you to be one.

This is the part of that conversation that kills me.  DHS training officer Humberto Medina said of the excessive amounts on ammo, (they are) "exposed to a variety of situations" and "only have that weapon to protect their lives."   "They can't contact air support [like an officer in an army could.] They have to be proficient at a very high level."  

"Blue Charlie four, Blue Charlie Four;  we have a lone male hiding in a boat."  "Request Red Leader Squadron support."  "A couple bunker busters should work.  Over."   :rofl:


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As I said in another thread.  This Second Amendment attack is far from over.  Senate Bill S.792 was introduced by Sen. Lautenberg, N.J. 04/23/2013.  It was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.  As of the 27th, the text had not been received by Thomas LOC.  In short the bill calls for a strengthening of background checks for explosive material.  This will include ammunition and fireworks which can be disassembled for the powder to make explosives.   This includes smokeless powders so home reloaders would also be affected.

This bill needs to be watched very carefully because if worded right, it would limit access to ammunition and reloading supplies for the public and inflict finacial disaster for smaller ammunition companies.

Harry Reid and Lautenberg will also give the Attorney General the power to forbid the sale of explosive powders to anyone who is believed to be purchasing it for the purpose of terrorism which could include anyone who has strong second amendment views, reads survival literature, home schools their kids, prefers precious metals over Federal Reserve notes, or expresses a fear of big government.

Now tell me who is paranoid?


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the slide fire stock caused the ammo shortage

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