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TameThaTane 
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,12:28 am |
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See, it's clowns like you that confuse matters. The police simply claim his plants had the POTENTIAL to produce 20 pounds. I saw his plants on TV and that's like saying his backyard garden is going to produce 2 ton of tomatoes. Perhaps...but not very likely.
No...impossible.
Believe it or not he was growing for personal use. Pot doesn't grow overnight. It's a very slow process. The man is sick and needs his medicine. This event will greatly shorten or end his life.
But you couldn't care less because you believe the hype. ---->
| Quote | | 20 lbs of weed? Who freaking cares? |
Now let's total up what it COULD be worth and really became angry and jealous. It's kooky. If cigarettes were illegal, Geo would get caught with 10 cartons of cigs and have $250,000 worth of smokes in his car! The only reason it has any value is because the government forbids it.
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,12:34 am |
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| Quote (TameThaTane @ July 23 2005,12:28,am) | See, it's clowns like you that confuse matters. The police simply claim his plants had the POTENTIAL to produce 20 pounds. I saw his plants on TV and that's like saying his backyard garden is going to produce 2 ton of tomatoes. Perhaps...but not very likely.
No...impossible.
Believe it or not he was growing for personal use. Pot doesn't grow overnight. It's a very slow process. The man is sick and needs his medicine. This event will greatly shorten or end his life. |
Sheesh, calm down now TTT, it's OK. 
I didn't see the visual evidence you are speaking of.
We can agree on this TTT, a complete waste of taxpayer money. Prosecute this guy because he was growing a little weed?
Hummmmmmmmm, free country eh?!? I have to think we have more important things in our communities then a guy growing some weed?
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,12:41 am |
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But it's not a waste of money. It's a money maker. See his home, his car, his stereo, his computer, his TV. It's all the county attorneys and the states now....oh...and along with all his money. $900.
All of this goes to the County attorney and the State of MN in 60 days automatically, unless he has thousands for a civil attorney. And of course he does not because they've seized all his assets, including any bank accounts.
You won't hear about that part of it(civil side)...just the criminal side. And remember...public defenders DO NOT handle civil cases.
See how the system is set up. Marijuana growers are treated as harshly as meth dealers.
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My choice is what I choose to do,
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Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,12:51 am |
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Now he's broke, homeless and on probabtion. He can't get public housing because of his drug record. Also, ALL landlords can legally discriminate against. Now he's in the system and can't use his medicine so of course he'll end up in prison or on probation for 5 to 10 years when he fails a urine test. You see, we place them in a position where they couldn't possibly succeed. He helps government grow. Now we need more police, jailers and jails and probation officers and prisons. There's a lot of jobs riding on his bust.
It truly is a sickness. Now take into consideration we jail sick people and in some cases kill them over pot...
Newsbrief: DC Judge Cleared in Jail Death of Paralyzed Marijuana User 3/25/05
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/380/magbie.shtml
A ten-day jail sentence for marijuana possession turned into a death sentence for a quadriplegic suburban Washington, DC, man last fall when 27-year-old Jonathan Magbie died at the DC Jail last September 24 after authorities there and at a DC hospital failed to provide proper medical attention. DC Superior Court Judge Judith Retchin, who handed down the unusually harsh sentence -- most minor pot possessors never see the inside of the jail -- was the object of especially harsh criticism from Magbie's family and supporters, but she has now been cleared of any wrongdoing by a DC judicial commission.
Retchin made only a "limited and uninformed" inquiry about Magbie's medical requirements before delivering the wheelchair-bound man over to the tender mercies of the DC Jail, the Commission on Judicial Disabilities and Tenure concluded March 17. But the report cleared her of misconduct, concluding that she acted within the law by making an effort -- no matter how feeble -- to ensure that the jail could provide for Magbie's medical needs.
The fault lay not with humans but with "failures of communication among the participants in this tragic sequence of events," the report concluded. According to the commission, communications between Retchin's staff and DC jail personnel failed to clarify that Magbie was to serve his sentence at the jail and was not a felony offender set to be sent to federal prison.
An earlier investigation of Greater Southeast Community Hospital by the DC Department of Health faulted the hospital for failing to provide adequate care after he was sent there from the jail. A DC Office of the Inspector General investigation of the actions of jail staff is pending.
While most simple marijuana possession offenders in DC receive probation, Judge Retchin said she ordered the jail sentence after Magbie told court investigators he would continue to smoke marijuana for health reasons and because a gun was found in the vehicle in which he was arrested. According to Retchin, who was interviewed for the report, if she had known about Magbie's medical needs, especially access to a ventilator while he slept, she would have selected "a period of home confinement, rather than a jail term, which would have far better served her sentencing objective," the report said, paraphrasing the judge.
Instead, Magbie and his motorized wheelchair were taken to the DC Jail. He was hospitalized during his first day there, then returned to the jail, then hospitalized again before dying half-way through his sentence.
In demonstrations outside the courthouse in the days after his death, Magbie's mother, Mary Scott bitterly criticized Retchin, a former prosecutor, calling her a murderer and demanding she be removed from the bench. Talking to a Washington Post reporter after the judge was cleared, Scott remained unmollified. "If she wanted to know if they could accommodate him, she should have tried to find out what his needs were," Scott said. "How can you say someone's going to take care of you if you don't know what they need?"
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Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,2:03 pm |
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Spike, I agree with you on this one. I don't smoke any pot. Did years ago, realize that the stuff now is 20x more potent. Never got into it because it just made me get the munchies and want to clean the house. HMMM, I could be an obese woman with an immaculate house right now. Nah, I'll stick to pretty damn fine looking with a comfortably clean house. I think that it is a waste of $$$ and time to go after the guy. Get the frigging meth producers and users. That is the sh** that scares me. Don't believe and never have that marijuana leads to bigger and better stuff. Another drug that seems to be the one of choice is esctacy (SP?) from what my teens tell me. Too many parents in denial out there, and too many kids in our area are currently in or have been in treatment this summer. I was amazed at the ones who I have heard about. Just a heads up to all of you out there. It is out there, where are your kids? And who are they with? Check on them, they may fight you on this, but, believe me it matters to both them and you.
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,2:25 pm |
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I mean look at this nonsense...
| Quote | | Did years ago, realize that the stuff now is 20x more potent. |
That's just plain saying..."I believe the chit they tell me because I'm stupid!"
Pot is not more potent than it was becaue it used to be sun grown sativa from mexico. Now listen what I'm about to say very carefully. The potency of cannabis is not determined by HOW MUCHTHC a plant has. It's the ratio of THC's 3 primary components!
Potent cannabis is healthier cannabis because one doesn't needlessly have to inhale large amounts of leaf material.
"Drug Czar Brown Escalates Potent Pot Follies
Claims 40 Fold Increase In THC Levels!
May 21, In an interview with the Dallas Morning News, Drug Czar Lee Brown was asked, "Why is it more dangerous for a kid to be experimenting with drugs now than when the baby boomers were in high school or college?" Brown responded, "The major illegal drug they're experimenting with is marijuana. Marijuana is 40 times more potent today than was the case 10, 15, 20 years ago... I don't think that young people know that. It is really not getting covered very well."
In other recent statements Brown has claimed that potency has increased only 6 to 10 fold. He did not offer any explanation for this escalation, nor did he offer any explanation for why he is contradicting Alan Leshner, the head of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) who says that potency is only 3 times higher than in the past. Brown also did not explain why the only large scale testing of contraband marijuana, sponsored by NIDA, shows no increase in potency since the early 1980's. As for it not being reported, the potent pot myth has been repeated in almost every major publication in America. It has become the single most accepted lie about marijuana in the mainstream media. Recently, both NEW YORK magazine and syndicated columnist George Will have claimed that potency is 15 times higher than in the past. Ironically, the Dallas Morning News cut that one sentence from the Will column. NORML finds no valid evidence of any increase in average potency."
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Your choice is who you choose to be,
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,2:28 pm |
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| Quote | | It has become the single most accepted lie about marijuana in the mainstream media |
Yup! It sure worked on our own allergic to bogus!!
Hrmmm...that's funny, I thought you were allergic to bogus! LOL 
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,3:22 pm |
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Hey Brain Damage:
If you don’t want to go to jail, stop breaking the law. It’s just that simple. I don’t break the law, why should you be able to just because you’re a (illegal drug) addict.
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,8:21 pm |
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Good point AbLincoln. Along with that Tame you brought GEO's issue up earlier. At least he has brought his issue to the city council and is working with people outside the Albert Lea Forum.
What kind of difference do you think you are making?
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2005,9:09 pm |
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Users can't be advocates you moron!
No, it's not that simple Ab...Guess who said this?
"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Abraham Lincoln (1809-65), U.S. President.
Speech, 18 Dec. 1840, to Illinois House of Representatives
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My choice is what I choose to do,
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Your choice is who you choose to be,
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