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Grinning_Dragon 
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2009,6:38 pm |
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Change or acceptance eh? Sex either for pleasure or procreation is a very vital process in keeping the relationship healthy. I do not begrudge a person going outside of their matrimonial vows if the other is withholding, it is not natural to assume that someone has to accept the fact the other partner is no longer interested in sex nor is it natural to go without sex.
There are so many health benefits that come from copious amounts of sex, as well as keeping the relationship strong between husband and wife.
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busybee
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Posted on: Dec. 20 2009,11:09 pm |
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QUOTE Sex either for pleasure or procreation is a very vital process in keeping the relationship healthy.
I agree.
QUOTE I do not begrudge a person going outside of their matrimonial vows if the other is withholding, it is not natural to assume that someone has to accept the fact the other partner is no longer interested in sex nor is it natural to go without sex.
I guess you assumed that the word "acceptance" meant a person should go without sex and sacrifice themselves for a lifetime marriage.
I'm sorry I didn't explain what my use of the word acceptance meant. I'll get back to you on that later.
QUOTE There are so many health benefits that come from copious amounts of sex, as well as keeping the relationship strong between husband and wife.
Once again, I agree.
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Posted on: Dec. 21 2009,9:15 am |
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[quote=busybee,Dec. 17 2009,6:11 pm][/quote]
QUOTE QUOTE Well when a friend comes to you and says he caught his wife cheating and she admits it, I'd consider that a fact. Are you saying the wife confessed to you?
Uh, no? notice how I use the term "he" in the quote you're referring to.
QUOTE QUOTE This thread IS about cheating while married and unlike some on here, I will not name names. Other than Tiger Woods, who's name has been said?
I should have been more specific, but it didn't really matter at the time. I was referring to the forum in general.
QUOTE QUOTE Sometimes what goes on in other household's has a ripple effect to other citizens in the community. I agree with that statement and can come up with many household situations that affect our community, but cheating isn't one of them. Would you explain, please.
You realy don't believe that cheating can have an affect on a community? I believe that cheating usually leads to divorce which has finanacial reperccusions on the entire family. It can also take an emotional toll on the kids and even the parents. This emotional toll on the adults can lead to less productivity in the work force because they are distracted by their emotions, legal issues, etc... Look at the toll it has taken on Tigar Woods? How much money do you think he's lost since this all blew open. Bad for him but financially good for her. His cheating has been a positive boon for the gossip industry and all the people they employ. So yes, I would say it has an affect on the community, either good or bad. Depending on what side of the fence you're on.
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Posted on: Dec. 21 2009,2:08 pm |
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It's hard to believe that people wouldn't think it has a toll on the community. One of the biggest reasons I didn't re-enlist as an MP was because once I became an NCO I seemed to deal with nothing but domestic disputes all day long. My whole shift seemed to be running from one end of post to the other, dealing with their crap, and the vast majority of the time those disputes involved infidelity.
If you listen to the scanner here in Albert Lea they are continually dealing with the same crap, and every time they're at a domestic we're paying for it. Not to mention that it causes us to need a larger police force.
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Dec. 21 2009,2:42 pm |
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Attention Whores is what we used to call them.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Dec. 21 2009,4:09 pm |
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Well no wonder you couldn't hack it as an MP, you lead with your emotions and you let it bother you. But I am sure if you ask your false prophet obummernaught real nice he can make domestic disputes a thing of the past by adding it to your health bill. Because after all the solution would be to throw some money at the problem. 
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*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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busybee
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Posted on: Dec. 23 2009,7:24 pm |
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QUOTE Uh, no? notice how I use the term "he" in the quote you're referring to.
I asked because if the wife didn't tell you herself also, how do you know your friend, the husband is telling the truth?
QUOTE You realy don't believe that cheating can have an affect on a community?
Right.
QUOTE I believe that cheating usually leads to divorce which has finanacial reperccusions on the entire family.
Cheating does not lead to divorce and divorce does not lead to financial repercussions on the entire family...an irresponsible and emotionally irrational thinking adult does.
QUOTE It can also take an emotional toll on the kids and even the parents.
Cheating is exclusively an ADULT CHOICE and something PARENTS need to deal with as ADULTS if they experience an "emotional toll" and should NEVER involve their children!
QUOTE This emotional toll on the adults can lead to less productivity in the work force because they are distracted by their emotions, legal issues, etc...
I'm sorry I can't wrap my mind around this one, especially considering that when I speak of domestic abuse/violence in general or how this affects MY children and OUR family unit, and the affect of this has on communities, I've been told there's something WRONG with doing this or am degraded because I choose to speak out.
I have not cared to discuss my children's other parent's infidelity because it pales in comparison to the abusive and violent choices he made and continues to make that has an "emotional toll."
QUOTE Look at the toll it has taken on Tigar Woods? How much money do you think he's lost since this all blew open.
If Tiger Woods wasn't a publicized sports figure his income potential would not be affected. As far as I know, employers who discover they have a confirmed marital cheater on their payroll, don't fire them on the spot, reduce their income, nor do they care if they "repent" the wrong-doing to their significant other or our society.
QUOTE Bad for him but financially good for her.
Why do you say that? Is he obligated to give her MORE money and provide her with more marital assets because of his infidelity?
QUOTE His cheating has been a positive boon for the gossip industry and all the people they employ. So yes, I would say it has an affect on the community, either good or bad. Depending on what side of the fence you're on.
I don't think Tiger Woods is a fair comparison of a marital cheating example and the affects this has.
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busybee
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Posted on: Dec. 23 2009,8:29 pm |
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QUOTE It's hard to believe that people wouldn't think it has a toll on the community.
Cheating or accusations of cheating do not affect a community. It's one adult's reaction to "valid" cheating or "invalid" cheating that can.
QUOTE One of the biggest reasons I didn't re-enlist as an MP was because once I became an NCO I seemed to deal with nothing but domestic disputes all day long. My whole shift seemed to be running from one end of post to the other, dealing with their crap, and the vast majority of the time those disputes involved infidelity.
How can you blame infidelity for domestic disputes when you most likely wouldn't have observed the PROOF?
QUOTE If you listen to the scanner here in Albert Lea they are continually dealing with the same crap, and every time they're at a domestic we're paying for it. Not to mention that it causes us to need a larger police force.
This is NOT the fault of infidelity.
MATURE RESPONSIBLE ADULTS will CHOOSE to end the significant other relationship when they discover infidelity or have convinced themselves their partner is having an affair.
Any rational thinking human being can walk away from emotionally intense pain when a threat to the safety of their children or themselves is not at stake.
Infidelity is threatening to a person's ego, pride, and social status, not their life, liberty or future pursuit of happiness.
It's when a significant other believes they have the RIGHT to punish the other for cheating or believes they have a RIGHT to punish the other because they have convinced themselves the other is cheating that domestic disputes requiring law enforcement assistance is needed.
Infidelity, fact or fiction, is a "moral" crime, not a "real" crime. Once society, law enforcement, the legal system and media realize this instead of blaming acts of real crime for it, nothing will change.
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