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busybee
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2009,2:49 pm |
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QUOTE For me on a personal level no, I don't believe revenge would make anything better, not even revenge sex..
What the heck... "revenge sex?" Anyone who would choose to do that obviously was in dire need of professional help prior to being cheated on. Rational thinking people don't and won't suddenly change their character/personality/behaviors and make a choice like that.
QUOTE As for the Woods, infidelity is extremely painful within a marriage, Tiger's wife may have assaulted him, she may have gained momentary pleasure from her revenge but it will be mere fodder for the attorneys..Tiger's karma awaits him...
Infidelity is painful, no doubt, and appears to be the most heavily used "excuse" for acts of domestic crime, on-going harassment, revenge in many forms, ect...
The fact is, the heartache caused from infidelity is manageable and is temporary, if the person cheated on chooses to be responsible for their own reactions and actions to the emotional pain they feel.
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Dec. 13 2009,10:02 pm |
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QUOTE What the heck... "revenge sex?" Anyone who would choose to do that obviously was in dire need of professional help prior to being cheated on. Rational thinking people don't and won't suddenly change their character/personality/behaviors and make a choice like that. I did say it wouldn't be for me, it seems a little self-destructive..because your partner has lowered his/her morals doesn't mean you have to degrade yourself..
QUOTE Infidelity is painful, no doubt, and appears to be the most heavily used "excuse" for acts of domestic crime, on-going harassment, revenge in many forms, ect... Many of these situations result in suicides or homicides, I don't have facts or figures but the statistics speak for themselves in the news we receive everyday.. I really wouldn't call infidelity an excuse for domestic violence, but the husband/wife who commits this type of activity (infidelity) cares little for their mates emotional well-being and there's no excuse for their actions..
QUOTE The fact is, the heartache caused from infidelity is manageable and is temporary, if the person cheated on chooses to be responsible for their own reactions and actions to the emotional pain they feel. True there are some that can forgive and forget and go on to lasting meaningful relationships with their partner... You seem to be defending promiscuity, or are you subconsciously defending your own misdeeds??
-------------- History is no more than the lies agreed upon by the victors. ~NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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busybee
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2009,10:08 pm |
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QUOTE I did say it wouldn't be for me,
I didn't say it would be for you.
QUOTE it seems a little self-destructive..because your partner has lowered his/her morals doesn't mean you have to degrade yourself..
Exactly!
It's self destructive to cheat because of any poor choice made by a significant other.
QUOTE Many of these situations result in suicides or homicides, I don't have facts or figures but the statistics speak for themselves in the news we receive everyday..
I agree, that's what some "victims" of infidelity tell everyone and that society, the news and the legal system tell to be the "end result" of infidelity.
So, why doesn't everyone who's been cheated on threaten or follow through with suicide, homicide or both?
And, is it fair to assume that if a "victim" of infidelity appears to be so pain stricken that they threaten to kill themselves or someone else or follow through with their threat, that they actually have been cheated on?
Why does the news, legal system and society choose to look for infidelity and promote discussion about it when a person uses or threatens violence towards others or upon themselves?
Is it possible that as a society, we have been taught and learned to view "infidelity" as more "criminal" than real crimes committed by one human being upon another involved or suspected to be involved in a "love triangle?"
QUOTE I really wouldn't call infidelity an excuse for domestic violence, but the husband/wife who commits this type of activity (infidelity) cares little for their mates emotional well-being and there's no excuse for their actions..
I didn't state that infidelity is ever excusable.
In my opinion, a person should ALWAYS end a relationship before they choose to engage in sexual acts with someone else. No exceptions apply. People are WRONG to blame their choice to cheat on anyone or anything else.
Further, if a person knows their significant other is cheating on them and this makes them unhappy, they should take responsibility for their unhappiness and end the relationship. No exceptions apply. People are WRONG to blame their choice to accept the cheating on anyone or anything else.
There are also the people who don't accept the cheating, end the relationship, and seeks revenge and punishment for "their pain." People are WRONG to blame their inability to manage the anger and hurt on someone or something else.
And last, there are the "accusers" of infidelity. They are the ones who assume cheating or "falling in love" with someone else can be the ONLY reason their partner would want out of the relationship with them.
These accusers seek revenge and punishment solely on their inability to believe they could have any part in the deterioration of the relationship. They attempt to convince and "justify" their every vindictive/self-serving decision (themselves and others) based upon their "thoughts" instead of "facts." Thus a "faithful partner" can be wrongfully accused and punished for NO REASON!
In discussing Tiger Wood's infidelity, according to the "media" reports, I think he's a serial cheater.
I hope his wife ends the relationship, no matter his apology and promises to change. It is rare for a partner to change and be sincerely sorry when they display a repetitive pattern of choice that are destructive to the relationship.
QUOTE True there are some that can forgive and forget and go on to lasting meaningful relationships with their partner...
As a society we "expect" that's what's happened if a couple is still together after one of them has cheated.
It doesn't matter if the one who has been cheated on stays with the one who cheated or begins a different relationship. If the victim of infidelity chooses not to manage their own emotional reaction to being cheated on, they will be miserable as will the cheating partner, cheating ex-partner, or new and different partner.
QUOTE You seem to be defending promiscuity, or are you subconsciously defending your own misdeeds??
I have no "misdeeds" to defend.
Are you planning on creating some misdeeds for me so I can defend them for you?
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busybee
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2009,10:26 pm |
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QUOTE When you ask.
Of course I should have seen that one coming!
QUOTE Lets see, when my stupid supervisor ticks me off with dumb inanities that can wait until the current project I am on is finished. I will put into motion a series of problems that will get him called on it and make him feel worthless. Ahhh, revenge a dish best served cold.
Is this based on facts? I would assume so...therefore, it's not revenge when you point out the obvious and are attempting to get someone to be accountable for their own job.
QUOTE My revenge is more of a character assassination.
That's too bad. It can get you into trouble if you don't know the character you assassin.
QUOTE Revenge does have its place when the scales of justice has been tampered with as well. That seems to be most important if the person seeking revenge (I would hope it's really JUSTICE) is the defendant.
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Posted on: Dec. 15 2009,10:43 pm |
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Oh I know exactly who I am messing with and it really isn't that much of a challenge. The idiot shouldn't be in that position anyways, and the sooner he is toppled from his pedestal the better.
-------------- *SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS / MOLON LABE / Se Defendendo memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis *The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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busybee
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2009,8:46 am |
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QUOTE Oh I know exactly who I am messing with and it really isn't that much of a challenge.
Well, that's good...I guess.
QUOTE The idiot shouldn't be in that position anyways, and the sooner he is toppled from his pedestal the better.
How did he get in that position if he's an idiot?
Did you know he was an idiot and if so, than how come he is in that position if you had prior knowledge that he shouldn't be?
If you didn't know he was an idiot and now recognize his idiocy, how come you haven't been able to get him toppled from his pedestal yet?
Are you sure what you are talking about is revenge instead of your ability to know the difference between right and wrong, the truth and a lie, hard work and laziness, integrity and power plays?
Exposing someone who is a lazy, self-motivated, manipulating con who lacks responsibility and accountability is not revenge, especially if their poor choices in a position of power and authority affect the well-being and rights of others.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Dec. 16 2009,12:30 pm |
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What's with all the women from around Albert Lea getting caught cheating on their husbands over the past few years? It's like an epidemic or maybe it's something in the water?
That priviledge use to be reserved for the married men. My how times have changed.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2009,10:38 am |
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QUOTE I suppose "common citizens" probably do think think they know the facts about everyone else's lives.
Well when a friend comes to you and says he caught his wife cheating and she admits it, I'd consider that a fact.
QUOTE I'm glad to be a "busybee" because I don't have the time to worry about what goes on in anyone else's hive, just my own.
This thread IS about cheating while married and unlike some on here, I will not name names. I bring this up for discussion about the problem of cheating in general, not about specific families based on gossip and rumors. Sometimes what goes on in other household's has a ripple effect to other citizens in the community.
QUOTE Cheating isn't a reserved privilege for women or men.
This was sarcasm.
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