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Funkadelic Zombie Hunter 
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Posted on: Oct. 03 2012,10:43 pm |
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(wrapping tin foil around my helmet) standing outside my command bunker looking for black helicopters because white ones show up way too easy smoking a stogie. 
Can somebody please explain what the H@ll Blackwater mercenaries have to do with new orleans this sounds like a good'n I have to know why blackwater was in the big easy.
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Posted on: Oct. 03 2012,11:21 pm |
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(Funkadelic Zombie Hunter @ Oct. 03 2012,10:43 pm)
QUOTE (wrapping tin foil around my helmet) standing outside my command bunker looking for black helicopters because white ones show up way too easy smoking a stogie. Can somebody please explain what the H@ll Blackwater mercenaries have to do with new orleans this sounds like a good'n I have to know why blackwater was in the big easy.
Welcome new member. 12 posts from you so far and most of them are rude and sarcastic. We need more rudeness in this forum.
QUOTE Can somebody please explain what the H@ll Blackwater mercenaries have to do with new orleans this sounds like a good'n I have to know why blackwater was in the big easy.
Good question. The Army, FEMA, National Guard and all the other people down there must not have been enough?  It doesn't bother you that Homeland Security called in Blackwater to operate in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina?
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Posted on: Oct. 03 2012,11:39 pm |
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^Need more rudeness???Rose, now my feelings are hurt 
Funk is pretty good though 
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Funkadelic Zombie Hunter
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Well... I am subtle like napalm
BUT what is the Blackwater OP that was conducted to the best of my knowledge the N.O. COPS collected guns and the N.G. helped I guess, yes their is proof and it was illegal.
The N.G. also pulled out people too stupid to leave when leaving was good. I was in a few hurricanes and left in one when it was too late (my bad) not .gov. I was dumb for leaving late, it's not like these things sneak up on you.
Hurricanes are nothing to fool with I seen 40ft sail boats in the middle of the highway and not damaged but other areas just wiped out, just one persons observation no more no less.
The D.H.S. is NO Friend of mine nor D.O.J. but until proof is given I cannot believe in hearsay or allegations. I need facts even the most secret things cannot be kept quite forever. Don't you think their might have been a paper/e mail trail somewhere? One cannot move people or equipment in a total blackout, flight plans, fuel purchases and or food, quarters, compensation issues.
Here is your bone and I am serious...
When and where was Blackwater in N.O. and what were they doing?
(edited) I did find some stuff on "common dreams" building a progressive community hardly a creditable source.
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012,1:06 am |
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(Self-Banished @ Oct. 03 2012,11:39 pm)
QUOTE ^Need more rudeness???Rose, now my feelings are hurt Funk is pretty good though
Don't worry SB. You are still King.
I bow to your A-Holiness. 
QUOTE When and where was Blackwater in N.O. and what were they doing?
(edited) I did find some stuff on "common dreams" building a progressive community hardly a creditable source.
Rarely do I give any info that I haven't verified with any mainstream news site or government agency. Sadly, if it's not on mainstream - it didn't happen. It makes things difficult because mainstream news won't, or can't, cover some things. Too bad people trust it so much. OOPS, my bad, there goes my conspiracy kook brain again. Never mind. Our media and government are completely transparent, honest, competent, and have only love and concern for us citizens. Our mainstream media is completely trustworthy and tells us everything that is important to know.
Blackwater guys weren't the only mercenaries there.
Blackwater is not alone. As business leaders and government officials talk openly of changing the demographics of what was one of the most culturally vibrant of America's cities, mercenaries from companies like DynCorp, Intercon, American Security Group, Blackhawk, Wackenhut and an Israeli company called Instinctive Shooting International (ISI) are fanning out to guard private businesses and homes, as well as government projects and institutions. Within two weeks of the hurricane, the number of private security companies registered in Louisiana jumped from 185 to 235. Some, like Blackwater, are under federal contract. Others have been hired by the wealthy elite, like F. Patrick Quinn III, who brought in private security to guard his $3 million private estate and his luxury hotels, which are under consideration for a lucrative federal contract to house FEMA workers. ...
The men work for ISI, which describes its employees as "veterans of the Israeli special task forces from the following Israeli government bodies: Israel Defense Force (IDF), Israel National Police Counter Terrorism units, Instructors of Israel National Police Counter Terrorism units, General Security Service (GSS or 'Shin Beit'), Other restricted intelligence agencies." The company was formed in 1993. Its website profile says: "Our up-to-date services meet the challenging needs for Homeland Security preparedness and overseas combat procedures and readiness. ISI is currently an approved vendor by the US Government to supply Homeland Security services."
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-878822.html?pageNum=1
Their thinking is simple. The Iraq war won't last forever, so if the company wants to stick around, it needs an alternate business plan. Work here at home is one solution.
"From a capitalist point of view it is brilliant," said Walker. "You want to diversify your market to diversify your downside risk. But do you really want someone diversifying this service? This is hired gun service. And you are going to diversity this among the 51 jurisdictions in the U.S.? This makes me really nervous. This is not a good thing."
Providing security after national emergencies is usually a function of the National Guard and local police. And during the Katrina aftermath, the Blackwater employees were paid $950 a day, or about eight times the salary of a New Orleans police officer.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14707922
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012,2:56 am |
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^ Now I feel all warm and fuzzy.
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With President Bush using the Katrina disaster to try to repeal Posse Comitatus (the ban on using U.S. troops in domestic law enforcement) and Blackwater and other security firms clearly initiating a push to install their paramilitaries on U.S. soil, the war is coming home in yet another ominous way. As one Blackwater mercenary said, "This is a trend. You're going to see a lot more guys like us in these situations."
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-878822.html?pageNum=3&tag=page
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Funkadelic Zombie Hunter
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012,9:14 am |
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The N.O. cops were ineffective besides being on the take literally, now realistically somebody has to be the police when there is none so I get that and that is good point.
I don't see that as a business plan though and for arguments sake it doesn't matter to some of our sunburned in the neck area friends who they are, some will take exception to strangers "patrolling" in their backyard and more than likely the patrols will be see as a threat.
Don't you think if there was a disaster in AL or for that fact any town and contractors came armed in there would be a few raised eyebrows and maybe a few other things?
I don't see this as a bush payback to the evil military complex there are too many other things on peoples radar right now to be worried about this.
Soooo....I am #2 must work harder!!
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Obama LIED people DIED
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012,10:01 am |
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Ok, I think we should start a new topic. One dealing with Blackwater all by itself. Check this out:
Counts One and Two allege violations of IEEPA based upon, Academi/Blackwater’s export of Iridium Satellite phones and Crypto Satellite phones to the Sudan in November of 2005, without the authorization of the United States Secretary of the Treasury as required by law.
Counts Three through Six allege violations of the Arms Export Control Act and the International Trafficking in Arms Regulations based upon several proposed or actual transactions as follows:
-Between October 1, 2006 and November 30, 2006, Academi/Blackwater proposed to provide security services and a threat assessment, which included defense services as defined by United States law, to the Government of the Sudan, without first having obtained a license from the United States Department of State;
-Between October 1, 2006 and June 30, 2008, Academi/Blackwater provided military training related to overseas military operations to military and law enforcement personnel from Canada without first having obtained a license from the United States Department of State;
-Between January 1, 2006 and December 30, 2008, Academi/Blackwater provided technical and engineering data relating to the construction of armored personnel carriers to personnel from Sweden and Denmark without authorization from the United States Department of State as required by law;
-Between October, 2004 and March, 2006 the company exported ammunition and body armor to Iraq and Afghanistan without first obtaining a license from the United States Department of State as required by law.
Counts Seven through Twelve allege violations of various federal firearms laws as the result of the company's possession of the listed automatic weapons without registration or permission.
And finally, Counts Thirteen through Seventeen allege that the company falsely represented to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that five firearms were owned by certain individuals when the weapons had in fact been given as a gift to the King of Jordan and/or his traveling entourage in June of 2005.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nce/press/2012/2012-aug-07_04.html
How the hell does a company get away with smuggling weapons into other countries, giving other countries government information for building tanks, and lie to numerous government agencies? And they only get probation and a fine? And that's public knowledge. Forgive me for slipping into conspiracy kook mode, but I can't help but wonder what hasn't been released to the public about this company.
And then there's this interview on Democracy Now. I feel like I'm reading a freaking Dan Brown novel. So far all of the crazy info I have checked from this interview is true. I'm not completely done checking everything yet.
QUOTE Young Erik Prince interns at the George H.W. Bush White House but says it’s not conservative enough for him, so he backs Pat Buchanan’s insurgency campaign. Erik Prince converted to Catholicism, my sources tell me, because he wanted to be closer to the true tradition of the Church and to the Crusades. And then you have this individual serving in the military, leaving the Navy Seals then to start a private military training company, that once the so-called war on terror is launched by President Bush, a candidate who Erik Prince gave tremendous money to and his whole network funded — they were all Bush Pioneers — Bush then launches a war that he describes as a “crusade,” invading not one, but two Muslim countries, and putting Erik Prince and his private force of neo-crusaders at the vanguard of that occupation, guarding all of the senior people that Bush deployed in those countries to be his point men. Blackwater, effectively, under the Bush years, operated as an armed wing of the Bush administration, and now we know from employees that there, in fact, was a perception within the company that Erik Prince viewed himself as a crusader in a war against Islam.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009...es_link
In 2005, Pentagon Inspector General, Joseph Schmitz quit the government and went to work for Blackwater. - There's alot of info to check on with that too. I haven't found a "credible" source yet, but some are saying that Schmitz tried telling the court handling a wrongful death suit started by families of Blackwater employees killed in Fallujah, that since it happened in Afghanistan the courts have to follow Sharia Law. (Sharia Law doesn't hold companies responsible for wrongful deaths)
QUOTE Blackwater has an airstrip and hangar filled with helicopters, a manufacturing plant for assembling armored cars, a pound filled with bomb-sniffing dogs and a lake with mock ships for training sailors. An armory is stacked to the ceiling with rifles. Throughout the place are outdoor ranges where military, intelligence and law-enforcement authorities from across the country participate in target practice. An incessant pop, pop, pop fills the air. There's no other place quite like Blackwater, at least not in private hands. In a decade, the company's revenue from federal government contracts has grown from less than $100,000 to almost $600 million last year. In August, the company won its biggest deal, a five-year counternarcotics training contract worth up to $15 billion shared with four other companies. http://seattletimes.com/html...] -------------- And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
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Posted on: Oct. 04 2012,10:06 am |
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(Funkadelic Zombie Hunter @ Oct. 04 2012,9:14 am)
QUOTE The N.O. cops were ineffective besides being on the take literally, now realistically somebody has to be the police when there is none so I get that and that is good point. I don't see that as a business plan though and for arguments sake it doesn't matter to some of our sunburned in the neck area friends who they are, some will take exception to strangers "patrolling" in their backyard and more than likely the patrols will be see as a threat. Don't you think if there was a disaster in AL or for that fact any town and contractors came armed in there would be a few raised eyebrows and maybe a few other things? I don't see this as a bush payback to the evil military complex there are too many other things on peoples radar right now to be worried about this. Soooo...I am #2 must work harder!!
There wasn't just New Orleans police working down there at that time. There were FEMA, Army and National Guard.
If FEMA, the Army and National Guard are too inadequate for handling disasters in America... that's a problem. In my opinion more money should maybe be spent making these people more competent instead of hiring some damn mercenaries. Teach people how to do their actual jobs correctly? Or hire mercenaries?
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