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I thought your GOP masters wanted a forced bankruptcy? Make up your mind, lol.  
Recall that MOST Repubs (and EVERY conservative) voted AGAINST the TARP money. :rofl:

Conservatives thought the auto companies SHOULD declare bankruptcy.  The Obamunists favored the bailout--it not only increases their stranglehold, but if the car companies declared bankruptcy, the fat union contracts would be voided.

The government let nearly every AIRLINE declare bankruptcy, and they all went through it--reorganized, and are still flying.  Why NOT the car companies--except for the reasons cited?

Ford didn't take TARP money, and is profitable.  Toyota, Saturn, and Honda are profitable.  The thing that all of the profitable companies have in common?  No huge union costs.  The thing that all Detroit automakers have in common?  BIG union contracts.

Sorry--but no amount of government meddling will ever make these companies profitable as long as they stay in Detroit and have these contracts.

Obama thinks he can run a car company?  The guy that has never run ANYTHING? :rofl:   Maybe he should try getting Amtrak, the Post Office, and other government agencies on track first. :p

Libbies like to talk about "Our jobs and our money going overseas"--then they put up with a forced sale to Fiat--the Italian econo-box manufacturer. :dunce:  :rofl:

WHERE in the Constitution does it say that the President can dictate who can and can't work for a company, and what the company can PRODUCE, how it is DISTRIBUTED, and how it is PRICED? :dunno:

GM now stands for "Government Motors"--they and Chrysler should simply be like Ford and say "no thanks--we don't want the money under your terms!"  If they have to take bankruptcy, it is preferable to the Fascist push of the Obamunists.

State (Federal) control NEVER works, whether it is the Stalinist "Five Year Plan", the Russian plans to make tractors, tanks, or planting of potatoes, or the Chinese Communist "Great Leap Forward." :crazy:


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The new legislation, the "Pay for Performance Act of 2009," would impose government controls on the pay of all employees -- not just top executives -- of companies that have received a capital investment from the U.S. government.


They don't have to take the government money if they don't like the terms of the loan.


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They don't have to take the government money if they don't like the terms of the loan.
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GM now stands for "Government Motors"--they and Chrysler should simply be like Ford and say "no thanks--we don't want the money under your terms!"  If they have to take bankruptcy, it is preferable to the Fascist push of the Obamunists.


As I said, they should give the money back and just take bankruptcy.

There is still the Constitutional issue of retroactive legislation--specifically prohibited.  There is also the Constitutional issue of Bill of Attainder--singling out specific individuals.  It would be like saying "The speed limit USED to be 70, but now it's 55, so I'm going to ticket all of you who drove 70." :crazy:

Singling out individuals for applicability of laws is also unconstitutional--it would be like saying "This law only applies to people owning web sites."

Another example would be "This law only applies to Jews--Ve vill make der Juden vear YELLOW STARS!"

Perhaps we should also make these "criminals" and "enemies of the State" have numbers tatooed on their arms? :sarcasm:

Under some regimes, they think that is all right. :sarcasm:


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You must have missed this part of my post.  Here it is again

I didn't read your post, I was responding to the other goofball republican.


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The new legislation, the "Pay for Performance Act of 2009," would impose government controls on the pay of all employees -- not just top executives -- of companies that have received a capital investment from the U.S. government.


They don't have to take the government money if they don't like the terms of the loan.

And if you were in control of one of these companies, would you turn over the power to the "Bolshie"?

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And if you were in control of one of these companies, would you turn over the power to the "Bolshie"?

It happens all the time you republitard, even the local JOBZ program dictated the wages the company would pay. :dunce:


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That cretin has over stepped his authority, way over.  Who does this shi!head think he is?  Didn't know I was living in a Monarchy, and he's the king.  If the prez were to tell me to step down, I'd tell him to go get bent.  I see the prez the same way I see a garbage man.  

I hereby charge that moron with usurpation of the Constitution.  

My GOD b.o., please just take that razor blade and cut your wrists to the bone, and die laughing.


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Your right they don't have to take the money but what of those companies that already did? This idea doesn't scare the crap out of you Liberal? If it doesn't then something is seriously wrong in your mental processes.

JOBZ if I am not mistaken dictates the MINIMUM a company is to pay employees and not every employee falls under the JOBZ guidelines. This idea of Barney "Fat Fingers" Crank and his cronies is going to screw over the lower income guys as well as those who probably should be receiving a serious pay cut unlike our local JOBZ program.

Goofball Republican I might seem to be, although I am registered with neither major political party, even YOU should be able to see the error of this proposal.

Oh and please, if you will, tell us where the Constitution gives the President the authority to tell a private company what they can do without regard to the employees of said company or it's stockholders. Let them go bankrupt and start anew.


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My GOD b.o., please just take that razor blade and cut your wrists to the bone, and die laughing.

For F's sake, then we'd have Biden in control, if he followed suit then hack Pelosi would run the show.  Good God this country is headed to the shitter fast!


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even the local JOBZ program dictated the wages the company would pay.
They dictated the minimum the companies would have to pay.

But let me rephrase the question.  "If you were in control of one of these companies, would you turn your power over to the Obama Administration?"

That's turning over pay scales and  bonuses to all your employees?  That includes pay going forward and retroactive.  To determine who you will hire or fire for as long as the government has an "investment" in your company?


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