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Mamma 
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,10:09 am |
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How dare the press not report that they were using the women and children as shields. In fact they used the women and children much as they used their other soldiers. Women and children were also killing soldiers. I remember our troops picking up a 5 year old girl who had a leg blown off when she got tangled in a booby trap she was helping her grandfather set. He was sobbing and wanting our help. She got the help she needed.....he got what he deserved. If they are going to tell the real story, then they should include ALL the story and not just what makes for good ratings.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,11:27 am |
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How dare the press not report that they were using the women and children as shields. In fact they used the women and children much as they used their other soldiers. Women and children were also killing soldiers.
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So are you saying we should let the soldiers whack women and children if they don't have a clear shot at an enemy combatant?
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busybee
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,11:47 am |
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Mamma, I'm sure what you write about does happen. However, no matter how the scenario is set up...if the innocent die at the hands of the "enemy" or the "good guy," it's difficult to justify the deaths of innocent people. That's exactly why many soldiors struggle with mental illness.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,11:56 am |
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| Quote (Liberal @ July 16 2007,11:27am) | | Quote |
How dare the press not report that they were using the women and children as shields. In fact they used the women and children much as they used their other soldiers. Women and children were also killing soldiers.
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Uh.. Yep. That's nature's way of telling the women and children to get the frack out of there if you want to live. War's a beeatch. 
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,12:20 pm |
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There are good and bad on both sides of any conflict.
Google Soburo Sakai sometime. He was an okay guy, for being on the wrong side.
Google George Armstrong Custer, on the other hand. He was a POS of the highest order, and got what he deserved. Too bad his entire division had to pay for his mistakes.
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,1:22 pm |
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| Quote (Liberal @ July 16 2007,11:27am) | | Quote |
How dare the press not report that they were using the women and children as shields. In fact they used the women and children much as they used their other soldiers. Women and children were also killing soldiers.
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So are you saying that when the VC used women or children as human shields, they were "safe" from American fire. Even though that same woman or child could possibly later walk up to you and explode a grenade killing you?
Never had the misfortune of being there, but a fair share of my friends were. Stories are not always pleasant.
CC somes it up. | Quote | | Uh.. Yep. That's nature's way of telling the women and children to get the frack out of there if you want to live. War's a beeatch. |
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,2:11 pm |
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Define what victory even means...that is...if you can. I wish I had a dollar for every post I've seen on the net from a parent claiming to have a child in the war says we can win it if only for...this or for that or the other thing.
I think these posts are all BS. They're using the old fake child scenario to get their neocon views across. Actual soldiers just want to come home.
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,4:05 pm |
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| Quote (TameThaTane @ July 16 2007,2:11pm) | | Actual soldiers just want to come home. |
Only you would think these posts are all BS too only later add ^. 
How did you come with that analysis? 
Of course the soldiers would rather be home. 
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grassman
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Posted on: Jul. 16 2007,7:24 pm |
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A friend of mine was on a chopper in Nam and he told me about little kids rushing the chopper brandishing hand grenades. Someone once said war is hell. There is no "CLEAN" way to win a war if you have to deal with that kind of crap! These people do not live the way we do and they do not have the same idealology as we do. You have to play the hand you are delt.
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busybee
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Posted on: Jul. 17 2007,12:48 am |
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| Quote | | These neo-con kooks want people to believe that the liberals are stopping soldiers from getting tough on these people, when in fact they're already getting tough, and it hasn't gotten us anywhere. |
Without any labels it would read something like this... "Some people want to believe that negativism about the U.S. involvement in Iraq is stopping the U.S. soldiers from getting tough on the war on terror there. When in fact, no one really knows if we've gotten anywhere, what's getting done, or where we're going next." Here's what we do know...Stay the course. 
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