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GEOKARJO 
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2004,9:19 am |
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Paul harvey bring it on buddy, you have earned an old fashion ass kickin and I am ready to do it. Quit hiding behind this forum and show your face. Chicken crap.
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| Post Number: 52
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Frustrated
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2004,9:36 am |
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Sorry, Geo, but I agree with Paul Harvey - You ought not be spanking your 16 year old daughter.
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2004,10:04 am |
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| Quote (GEOKARJO @ Aug. 06 2004,2:58:pm) | When she came home with her tounge pierced I should have had her layover the arm of the sofa, but once you have pierced your tongue there is no reason to do it again.  |
I only vented a feeling not actually did it. So what are you agreeing to the fact I told her no for two years and she did it anyway by god knows who. No I just shook my head and walked away but now she has free roam to do what ever the hell she wants cause now she knows I am not going to do anything about it.
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| Post Number: 54
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Paul Harvey
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2004,11:45 am |
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That's what ya get for thinking you were all cool and stuff.
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| Post Number: 55
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busybee
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Posted on: Aug. 23 2004,1:15 pm |
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Tiger, I am not implying that parents who spank are not good parents. I have only offered alternatives for young children because I really do believe that spanking a young child is a waste of time in the long run because it isn't a consequence that can be used when a child grows into a young adult. Most parents have thier children until they're 18 years old and are responsible for teaching the difference between right and wrong. Guiding them to make good choices for themselves. Even toddlers can be redirected or removed from a situation to gain their attention to begin their learning process. I'm the type of parent who wants my children to fear disappointing me, fear losing a priviledge and work towards priviledges, by being responsible for their behavior and honest. As a parent I haven't found that a spanking is necessary to do this. Having a teenage boy who is just as tall as me, I would really be in trouble if I had to swat him on the back side to get him to pay attention to me and be responsible for his behavior.
Tiger, do you actually know how many parents have gotten into trouble for spanking their children? Do you realize how difficult it is to get a child removed from a home where there actually is abuse occuring? I don't think it's fair that you claim that parents who spank their children are charged with abuse. It's just not so. Children who get removed from homes are typically children who have had extensive abuse with a history to back it. Children are rarely removed because they get spanked. As long as there is no bruising, that's not abuse. A parent can pull their child's hair, pinch, yank their arms, poke, slap, throw them, but if their's not a history of markings/bruising/missing hair, that's not abuse.
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| Post Number: 56
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Tiger
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Posted on: Aug. 24 2004,8:37 am |
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I do in fact know how difficult it is to have a child removed when "abuse" is actually occurring. My Mom works in the school district and sees signs all the time. These signs are recorded and there must be a record a mile long before anything happens. It is sad! Some of these kids need help and because they have't ended up in the hospital or something everyone just keeps "recording" the signs. I was referring to a personal situation when I said others might claim "abuse." A few years ago a friend was at the city beach and her 4 year old was acting out so she grabbed her by the arm and was marching back to the car when a woman accused her of "abuse" and told her she was going to turn her in. That is my fear that parents will be so worried about how others view their form of discipline that they will no longer have a choice. Notice the word choice. I respect your choice to discipline your children the way you see fit and it seems to be working for you. I also don't see anything wrong with a child getting a swat on the hand or behind when the parent sees fit.
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Paul Harvey
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Posted on: Aug. 25 2004,9:03 am |
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It should be difficult. We don't want kids removed from parents easily.
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Tiger
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Posted on: Aug. 25 2004,9:22 am |
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I don't think it should be easy Paul. But when there is an obvious sign of abuse I think it should be immediately investigated. The severity of the sign should stand for something not just the number of times it (a sign) has been recorded.
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| Post Number: 59
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Paul Harvey
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Posted on: Aug. 25 2004,9:48 am |
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Define obvious signs.
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Tiger
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Posted on: Aug. 25 2004,10:36 am |
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Begging to stay after school so they don't have to go home. Continuous bruising. Use your head Paul, I think you know what obvious signs are.
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