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adamwpuyear 
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Posted on: May 26 2004,10:51 pm |
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Now pay attention, I will type slowly.
Yes, that particular Barnes & Noble seems to be placing books in a way that conforms more to THIER politics than to the sales, as their own website indicates. And, yes they know - I called them. Jim and I are saying the same thing. He thought that it was interesting that bookstores DON'T place their most popular stores in the back, like grocery stores do. 
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Posted on: May 26 2004,11:07 pm |
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Demographics never crossed your mind? It never occurred to you that just maybe they sell more liberal books at that store than at others?
Would you like to point out how Jim and you are saying the same thing because it sure looks to me like Jim is saying the best stuff is at the back of the store(like the meat in a grocery store) and you are saying it's in the front. I don't see how that is the same thing at all?
Let me see if I got this straight, your theory is that the manager is just trying to push his/her liberal agenda and that book placement in that stores really has nothing to do with sales but with the managers political agenda?
If that's the case why not put all the right wing books in the back(or is it the front)
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adamwpuyear
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Posted on: May 26 2004,11:29 pm |
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Jim and I are discussing two different things really. I am saying that typically bookstores place the items they want to sell the most of at the front of the store or in the main aisle as you walk in. Using that as a model, I found it interesting that this one store was placing what I thought to be a predominant number of liberal books very close to the front. Granted, this store (and many others) probably sell books in proportions that vary from the Barnes and Noble weekly 100. But it is interesting that Hillary's book had three different placements in three different locations, all within 10 feet of the door when it isn't even in their top 100. Compared to one placement of Dick Morris' book and it was #69 (several spots above another liberal book which also had three placements). That is quite a difference.
Jim's point was that he found it interesting that bookstores in general do not place their products similar to the way that grocery stores do. They place popular items in the back with impulse items in the traffic areas leading to and from. It was merely a comparison.
Hope that clarifies. 
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adamwpuyear
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Posted on: May 26 2004,11:31 pm |
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I forgot - really the issue is not the items that they want to sell in the front, but rather the most popular. Sorry.
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Posted on: May 26 2004,11:58 pm |
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Jim was responding to me when I said, "It couldn't possibly be that they put the better selling books up front could it?"
His response was, "Put the better selling books up front? Have you ever studied store layout? Think of a grocery store--where are the high-value items?"
Which obviously implies that he thinks I'm wrong in my assumption that they "put the better selling books up front".
Let's try this from the beginning, in your very first post you said that you overheard a couple of things in the store and then you ventured a guess as to the reason for these things.
#1 was "This Sean Hannity book isn't selling, get rid of it" and you thought that it might have something to do with the fact that there were NONE within 25 feet of the door. But, it never occurred to you that 2 weeks ago it could have been within 5 feet of the door but since it was a dog and it didn't sell it was moved away from the door to make room for a new releases that might sell.
#2 was "Did you hear Michael Moore won the award at Cannes? We'll have to get more of him."
Why would they say this unless they expected to sell more Michael Moore books? They didn't say we'll have to sell more of them, they said we'll have to get more of them, which would make a person think they were expecting a run on Michael Moore books because he just won an award at Cannes.
I seriously doubt any manager at a Barnes and Noble would care less if a liberal or conservative wrote a book. I think they probably just get the new releases and they put them in the front of the store and if they don't sell that well then they move them back to make room for more new releases.
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adamwpuyear
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Posted on: May 27 2004,12:17 am |
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| Quote (adamwpuyear @ May 24 2004,2:24:pm) | I stopped at Barnes & Noble to pick up a copy of Brainwashed (author Shapiro).
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksea....6&itm=1
They said that they do not have any and neither do ANY of the five closest stores. I thought that this was interesting considering these facts:
- The book is newly released.
- It was written by a college student (you'd think they would support him).
- The author has been on at least two nationally syndicated talk shows AND one of the most popular FM morning radio shows.
- The book is available on their website.
Considering these facts, and after being "brainwashed" by Laura Ingraham, I decided to conduct an informal study of the books on display in the store. |
Good points. This is exactly why we do these posts isn't it? The comments that I heard were not the impetus of my informal study. The quote shows what got me going.
And you are right about the manager also. But take a look at that one snapshot in time. Considering the comments, the fact that one of their least popular, but liberal, paperbacks (read - low margin) had far more display space so close to the door than a much more popular, but conservative, hardcover (read - high margin), and the items in the quote, most reasonable people might find it interesting. Don't you think?
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Posted on: May 27 2004,8:18 am |
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No, but, I think it's a really funny conspiracy theory and the fact that you called to complain make it's a riot!
I can just imagine how that phonecall will go. The regional manager will call the store manager and say, "We got a complaint that you guys are putting books by liberal writers in better locations than conservative writers" and the store manager will say "Well, I can fix that, but, first you'll have to explain to me the difference."
As far as the quoted text that put you into the highspeed wobble, I don't understand why you would expect Barnes and Noble to carry a book written by some college kid just because he's been on a couple talk shows. I can understand that it's avalable online, but, you can get about anything from them online. The last book I bought online from Barnes and Noble was James Clerk Maxwell, A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism Vol. 2 and since it's not a real big seller they don't stock it in their stores. (But, you don't see me blaming the conservative manager for that do you? )
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adamwpuyear
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Posted on: May 27 2004,8:34 am |
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It is much more obvious if you are standing just inside the door and look around - without moving. Just put your head on a swivel the exorcist way. It isn't that it is pervasive, but I thought that what I saw was interesting - simple as that. I do realize that the store can't carry everything that is on the website, but given their support for student authors in the past (no matter how obscure) it was interesting that SIX stores did not have a copy of it.
Did you read that book you got online? What else do you read? My most recent books include:
Dangerous Waters - Modern Terror and Piracy on the High Seas
Ten Things You Can't Say In America - excellent
Official Handbook of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy - it comes with a mebership card, test, and membership certificate! 
Deliver Us From Evil
Death of Common Sense - excellent
Guns, Germs, and Steel - interesting, but challenging reading
A National Party No More - excellent Democratic Senator Zell Miller reflects on the degradation of his party. He has great ideas. I highly recommend it.
I have many others waiting to be read.
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Posted on: May 27 2004,9:47 am |
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Cheez Adam do you ever read for fun?
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Posted on: May 27 2004,9:56 am |
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Check out new topic I posted related to this.
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