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ChrisAX 
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Posted on: May 04 2004,9:33 pm |
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This is not the first time that I have heard slang used in the halls of ALHS, but this time it really bugged me. Today as I was walking to my 4th hour class i saw a kid get pushed aside and called a "faggot **** sucker".  Why is it that people feel that they must humliate others to make themselves feel better? I personally was ofended by this becasue i have gay and lesbian friends both in the high school and out (i am not homosexual my self jut to clear things up).i would like to get your opinions on this subject matter (Keep them clean please!!)
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Uncle Ben
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Posted on: May 04 2004,9:52 pm |
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Well, it doesn't help when high school girls use the faggot lines to humiliate males of their age group. Other meathead males see this and it teaches them pick on weaker males in an attempt to display their manhood. Girls have the power to stop this, but often they instigate it. Many high school girls get a drug like rush watching males display testosterone outbursts over them.
It's called youth, and a big reason why many adults never go back to thier high school reunions after moving on.
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Clovis
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Posted on: May 04 2004,9:55 pm |
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I'm with you, Chris. As an educator (not in AL or in Minnesota even), it bugs me that students - and other teachers, even - feel that derogatory names/slang that demeans others (even unintentionally) is appropriate. Things like... "That is SO gay." "I can't believe how retarded this is." And of course, the examples you gave above, which are many times more malicious.
I wish more people would challenge it when others use these terms. I do it, and my kids think I'm weird and oversensitive... but I counter that you can never make an assumption that no one in the class has ties to the LGBT community, or a relative/close friend with a severe mental impairment. I finally got one of my worst offenders to stop using it in class after he understood why I asked people to curb that kind of language.
On a more localized note, I wonder if there would be enough support for a Rainbow Alliance? Did anyone participate in the Day of Silence a couple of weeks ago? You might investigate these as options for the upcoming year.
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Clovis
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Posted on: May 04 2004,10:04 pm |
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As far as replying to Ben's post, I've never seen/heard girls call boys any of the type of names that slam the LGBT community. What I more often hear is girls going after girls, or guys going after other guys. It's a rare thing in my experience (attending three high schools, teaching at a fourth) that these types of insults cross gender lines. It's more often a way for a person's peers of their own gender group to call into question that person's identity/status within the homogenous gender group.
Translation: Girls get on other girls' cases to make them look bad/questionable to other girls, boys get on other boys' cases to make them look bad/questionable to other guys.
I guess, reflecting back on it some more, I've seen guys call girls these kinds of names, but it's much rarer than same-gender name-calling. And again, I've not seen it directed at guys from girls.
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Posted on: May 04 2004,11:12 pm |
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It is quite sad how are teenagers these days just keep getting more and more disrespectful. Is it because we get in "trouble" now for disciplining our children? Heck if you even spank your child now days your turned into DHS, which is extremely sicking!!! I or whoever should be able to punish their children how they feel is correct. Don't get me wrong though I do NOT condone CHILD ABUSE.
I guess I look at how I was raised and how my siblings were raised. My closest sibling is six years younger than me all the way to my youngest sibling being thirteen years younger than me. My youngest sibling is a freakin brat.....because my parents have gone through five of us and they are just "whatever" with him. He is always angry and always fighting with my eldest child as if they were siblings.
Although, I do think that the states espically MN have taken over too much as far as "How to treat and punish your kids".........these kids who pick on others tend to never grow up!! MN seems to help harbor this type of behavior. It can be so frustrating at times. Sometimes it so hard to tell whats going on because of all the hype about child abuse and teenagers being able to divorce their parents in the "famous media" these days.
THere is definitely too much negative t.v. these days and also too much info given to the press! Why do we need to know every aspect of Britney Spears life.........no wonder kids are so confused these days. Here this famous starlet is gettingin trouble and just getting more famous everyday........why wouldn't I want to be bad I'll be noticed then!!
"I guess, reflecting back on it some more, I've seen guys call girls these kinds of names, but it's much rarer than same-gender name-calling. And again, I've not seen it directed at guys from girls." ----clovis
THere was a show called "missing" Ithink it used to be on after CSI and they did a show about how these 8th grade girls pick on a "geeky" 8th grade boy as a way to get back at him for teasing another girl. Long story short, it was in reference to teen suicide also cause in the end he tries to hang himself cause he was so humilated by the girls. So, I guess I would take that as a sign that it may be the thing in other areas of this country's school system?? Just a thought..........
Excellent thread...............
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Liberal
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Posted on: May 05 2004,11:09 am |
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I know what you mean about kids being disrespectful. I live right next to a Bellvue park and last week a couple of 18-19 year old kids drove into the park right up next to the equpiment and were handing out smokes to their other teenage friends that were already there apparently waiting for them.
I saw them do it but I figured I wouldn't go over there since I have a bad temper and my wife who is much more mild mannered than me was outside and I knew she would go over there. I was right because she came in the house in a matter of minutes with this shocked look on her face and said that she had just told the little creep that he shouldn't be driving in a park especially when there are little kids all over the place and the little punk looked right at her and said,"What's your problem? Is this your park?" and then laughed at her. So my wife just came inside and called the police (which she probably should have just done in the first place).
I don't know if the little punk would have said the same thing to me, but, if he would have I would have probably just drug him out of his car and given him a lesson in respecting people and property. Which is something his parents must have forgotten to do. It's hard to believe that for thousands of years the idea of "Spare the rod, spoil the child" worked and now all of the sudden we have parents that think it's somehow a bad idea.
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Uncle Ben
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Posted on: May 05 2004,11:40 am |
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Let me get this straight. Wife tells people they ought not do what are perfectly legal things. Boy asks relevent questions, YOU call the police!
Wha the fu?
Think about what she said. I can't imagine telling people to keep off public roadways so as not to hit my my child who's running loose. That's ridiculous.
The problem here is, the real problem is your seemingly intolerance for people in that age group. I think you can guess what I'd say if she pulled that garbage on me... 
...but she...you... wouldn't because I'm older. Please learn to be tolerant of everyone, it's attitudes like yours that get the rest of us in trouble because it builds resentment in young folks. I can't say as I blame them.
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Posted on: May 05 2004,11:47 am |
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Did you read the post by Liberal? He said they drove into the park right up next to the equipment. They did not stay on the roadway. The 18-19 year old needed the cops called on them. They were distributing to minors, which is against the law!
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Posted on: May 05 2004,11:53 am |
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It's a playground and he drove right up to the swingset, there is nothing legal about what he did. Don't you think kids can reasonably expect to be safe from traffic in a play park?
And I have no problem with kids that age group. I even have friends in that age group. But, I don't think they are the type that would drive in a play park or smart off to an adult that was nice enough to say something polite to them instead of just calling the police in the first place.
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Uncle Ben
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Posted on: May 05 2004,12:02 pm |
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Oh, OK. My bad.
I still think that Albert Lea treats its young people very poorly though.
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