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cpu_slave 
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2004,9:53 am |
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| Quote | | It's all about skills. You've got to love something or be passionate enough about something to learn to be one of the best at it. You must be able to do something that not very many others can do as well. |
Perhaps it’s the liberal in me talking when I say that not everyone can be the best or that it would make everyone the same, would it not? Besides, there is a whole host of people who want to work but don’t necessarily have the skills or the cash to start their own businesses, and would rather have the stability that comes from working for a company, especially one that has been around a long time. I guessing that since minnow is an advocate of cheap immigration labor that he has no problem with his tax bill going up to pay to support those who are working jobs so crappy that they still qualify for state welfare benefits. As more businesses use tax loopholes and incentives to avoid paying their fair share of the tax bill, the result is that the individual taxpayers are now having to pick up more and more of the slack. I predict that unless there are changes made in the next few years we can realistically see tax increases from the current 20%-30% to more like 35%-45% easily, as those who are fortunate enough to be working will have to also support about 1-2 people who can not through social welfare programs.
Currently, there is an over-abundance of cheap labor which is driving wages down for those who chose to work for a living, and this is happening to virtually every sector of business, except ironically enough government and healthcare. Unfortunately, in the blue collar world for decades and now in the white collar world as well, it is getting to be not so much of a matter of how good you are, only how cheap it can be done. I know several individuals who know their stuff and should be at the tops of their fields, only to watch their jobs go overseas where it can be done cheaper to make their companies owners a better profit. In many once-good-paying fields, they are now saturated with so many qualified workers competing for a small number of jobs that wages are rapidly falling. There wont be much of a service economy around if no one can afford the services, and some just can not grasp this concept...
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An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it.-James A. Michener
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.-Albert Einstein
Wise men learn more from fools than fools from wise men.- Marcus Cato
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2004,11:02 am |
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The era of the dumb factory worker is coming to an end. Either learn to swim or sink...
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cpu_slave
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2004,4:03 pm |
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| Quote | | The era of the dumb factory worker is coming to an end. Either learn to swim or sink... |
Well, since there seems to be a rampant epidemic of stupid people, those of us who are fortunate enough to have a job will be sinking with the high taxes so the state can take care of those to 'dumb' to take care of themselves!
Besides, it's not just the factory work going over seas but I guess that fact would do little to support your argument.
Again, there wont be much of a service economy around if no one can afford the services, and obviously you can not wrap your dense mind around this...
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An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it.-James A. Michener
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.-Albert Einstein
Wise men learn more from fools than fools from wise men.- Marcus Cato
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2004,4:25 pm |
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Oh yes...you're sinking because of high taxes and of course poor people are getting all thos taxes... 
Gong!
Next act...
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cpu_slave
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2004,4:35 pm |
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You really need to head on down to the library and brush up on your ignorance! 
Getting you to stick to subjects and adress issues is about as likely as getting a major employer opening up in Albert Lea, but I guess some people still hope...
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An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it.-James A. Michener
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.-Albert Einstein
Wise men learn more from fools than fools from wise men.- Marcus Cato
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cwolff
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Posted on: Feb. 11 2004,4:45 pm |
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Today Daimler Chrysler Motors announced that they will be moving a frame building department to Mexico from Detroit because of high labor costs along with 500 jobs. Lets see, employees get a 3-4 % pay and benefit raise every year and car prices go up 9-10% and more every year. Sounds to me like the conglomorates just want more and more and more profit, and when they have a bad year they want the federal government to bail them out. The government is glad to hand over millions of dollars to the auto industry during a recession, but look the other way when they want to send jobs across the border or over seas. Made in America doesn't necessarily mean it any more!
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cpu_slave
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Posted on: Feb. 11 2004,6:19 pm |
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I'm all for a boycott of companies who outsource. It won't do any good because Americans are spineless consumers with the personal restraint of Ted Kenedy. Let's face it, if someone has to go without somthing as trivial as their favorite ice cream flavor then they could not do it.
Lou Dobbs is making a list. Its called 'Exporting America'. He's taking names and kick Ass.
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An age is called Dark, not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it.-James A. Michener
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.-Albert Einstein
Wise men learn more from fools than fools from wise men.- Marcus Cato
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Feb. 11 2004,6:26 pm |
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More & more money doesn't always mean more & more profit. The auto companies are spending billions (with a B) in research & developement of alternatively fueled vehicles. The government puts pressure on them to meet more strict environmental standards, but also laws for more advanced technology with computers & diagnostic equipment on current cars. This doesn't come cheap.
I'd have to agree with you cpu_slave. Theirs plenty of people that have learned a valuable skill, but often they get done with college, look around for work in that field, and end up taking a job at a factory or a nurseing home. If manual labor fades out, then a minimum wage job bagging grocerys or working fast-food jobs, or in this town, they may be stuck with that regardless.
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 11 2004,6:38 pm |
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College does NOT equal skill. College is a place you go to to read books, get tested over them and then spend all the rest of your time getting drunk and trying to get laid.
College has little if anything to do with my skills...and boy do I gots skilz! I'm looking at the top 5 highest priced homes for sale in the area right now.
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cwolff
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Posted on: Feb. 11 2004,6:50 pm |
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| Quote | | The auto companies are spending billions (with a B) in research & developement of alternatively fueled vehicles. |
The auto industry is snowballing the American public by making them think they are working on ways to improve gas mileage both with and without alternatively fueled vehicles. The hundred miles to a gallon car engine has already been invented a long time ago, but do you really think that the auto and fuel industries will let that car on the market? Hell no! They want you to regularly pay at the pump to fuel their bottom line.
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