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hoosier 
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Posted on: Nov. 03 2003,2:01 pm |
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Nice post Tiger, in the case I am speaking of, the parents are a big part of the problem. The father once tried to get a coach fired because his son didnt play the whole game. Said they were teaching the kids to be losers. They did lose most of their games, but they did it as a team, they will win as a team also, if that day ever comes, LOL.
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The Advocate
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Posted on: Nov. 04 2003,7:12 pm |
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Thank you Rosebudinal for your kind words. I just love writing on this forum because of the people on it.
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danfredrickson
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Posted on: Nov. 05 2003,12:03 pm |
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Hello, my name is Dan Fredrickson, I'm the Head Boys Basketball Coach at Glenviile-Emmons and I would like to address some of these issues. Specifically in regards to "hoosier." I know the kid you are talking about when you refer to the 7th grader who you say "didn't want to play with his teammates in junior high." And if your going to spout off like you know something then get your facts straight. I brought this young man up to play B-Squad last season, he impressed me so much that he started to get playing time on the varsity. One varsity game he made 5 3 ptrs., and scored 19 pts as an 8th grader playing against a 6-4 senior, regarded as the 2nd best player in our conference. This kid can play. And he was brought up because of his talent, not because of his name. This young man played half of the B-squad games and half of the varsity games last season, he was still 2nd in scoring and 2nd in rebounding on a talented B-Squad team that went 17-1. Regarding that incident in 7th grade when you say "this young man refused to play with his teammates", this incident simply did not occur. He did play the majority of the season with his his 7th grade teammates, before the 8th grade coach (The Superintendent, and biggest advocate for equal playing time at ALL levels) brought this player up to play on his struggling 8th grade team. And he did so without contacting this young man's parents. So get you facts staight before you crucify this fine young man (a freshman), on this pathetic website!!!! I've coached this young player for 2 years now, and his character is intact, he is one of the finest young men I've ever been in contact with, a coach's DREAM! He is the consumate TEAM player, a tireless worker, very DRIVEN, and an excellent role model for his peers. I've brought players up to my B-squad teams on 3 different occasions, and on each occasion I contacted the players parents first trying to find out if that would be the right situation for their child, then I contacted the player and made sure it was what he wanted, then the move was made. As long as I've been here a player has never been brought up because of NAME! At our level its about the best players competing as a TEAM to achieve the best they can, that's it nothing more. I find it funny the senseless comments I hear from someone who heard from someone who heard from someone...... I've never seen a parent at my practices, and I've only had two parents in 7 years of coaching come and talk to me about their child. If their is such a concern and you parents know it all where are you? (Oh, that's right your on this website, spouting your lame opinions to the only peanut gallery you feel you get support from, hey as long as that makes you feel better, but what about your KIDS?) You parents need to get involved, talk to these coaches, support them, support your kids, stop with all of this negativity. What do you think that is teaching your child when he sees dad whining about everything? Maybe that's why junior isn't doing as well as you hoped, look at his role model he's ripping a 7th grader and his family for and incident that didn't occur. What would possess you write something about a young man whom I'm sure you haven't had the pleasure to get to know. And for your sidekick "monkey" or "TIGER" or whoever, we are all happy you were moved up in two sports, but what right does that give you to run your mouth about this individual and his parents? What behavior are they encouraging that you disaprove of, or don't you know because you have know idea about this specific situation therefore are not qualified to voice an opinion? I find it funny you people spouting off on these websites hiding behind made up names, probably because you've never had the BALLs to confront anyone personally! It's been fun, but back to reality, which you guys are welcome to join me in anytime, if you ever decide to leave FANTASY LAND!
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Tiger
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Posted on: Nov. 05 2003,1:47 pm |
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Dan Fredrickson, first off I could care less about Glenville Emmons athletics. I was merely responding to a previous post. It is kind of like having a conversation. Try it sometime. I have coached young kids in the summer programs and have seen parents first hand act in the manner discussed above. The attitude of the parents 95% of the time rubs off on the kids even at such a young age. If you would have read the entire thread you would have seen that I said it was good that individual was moved up but now it is the parents responsibility to guide him, help him stay focused and stay grounded.
Secondly, what makes you any better of a role model to your athletes when you come on here "calling names" like an adolscent? I know you are only trying to defend this kid because you are his coach and have every right to do that. However I think there is a much more professional way of going about it. You are employeed by the school district correct? That would make you a professional. Do think parents and athletes are going to respect you more because you came on here spouting your mouth off exactly like you say other individuals on this forum have done. Sounds hypocritical to me!!!
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shaker
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Posted on: Nov. 05 2003,4:39 pm |
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dan fredrickson, If you have an issue with Hoosier, fine, that one I don't want to be involved in or with, Hoosier will take care of himself very well I'am sure. But as far as saying that people who post here don't have the balls to confront anyone personally you are out in left field and just running off at the mouth as far as I am concerned. I know several people who post here, they are very well informed and they are not afraid of confronting anyone, anytime. stick with your big time coaching job in Glenville, looks to Me like you have reached to top of your ladder. 
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Nov. 05 2003,4:55 pm |
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Tell it like it is, shaker. Mr. Fredrickson comes on this forum, makes his first post and blows his wad.
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He don't know me very well, does he shaker.
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shaker
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Posted on: Nov. 05 2003,5:05 pm |
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You are soooo rite maddog! 
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danfredrickson
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Posted on: Nov. 05 2003,6:58 pm |
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Tiger: If you want to have a conversation with someone on here that's fine. The only thing I'm saying is it would be nice if you knew the entire story before giving your opinion, especially about a topic concerning a now (freshman) athlete. If I called you a name or anything, I apologize, that was not the intent of this rant. I was trying to defend my players side of the story and what really occured, and I became more and more frustrated that anyone can come on these forums and tell what ever story the want without repercussions. It is a very sensitive issue to me when someone lashes out against one of my players, especially people who have not gotten to know them. So to me this issue became personal, and I wrote a few things in my post to stir up some attention, to shake you people up the way I was shaken up when I read "Hoosiers" comments. Tiger, once again I apologize if you took offense to what I had written, you seem to be a clear thinker and you are right on about some of the issues you speak of and I agree with you on most, however, it was frustrating to hear people chime in on an incident that simply did not occur, and to hear you speak out against this kid as if you know the situation. So all I'm saying watch your comments on some of these issues, because sometimes they affect real people, and this is exactly how these non-truths originate. Shaker YOU SIMPLY DON'T GET IT DO YOU! The only thing that matters to me is these kids. They are Glenville-Emmons' kids, the same as I was as a player. It has been the most rewarding experience of my life being able to work with these young gentlemen. Let me inform you on my situation, before you open your mouth about my "Big-Time" coaching position. I am a college student at Minnesota State University-Mankato, carrying a full load and working a part-time job in Home Health Care. I live in Mankato, and during Basketball season I commute 65 miles one way for the opportunity to coach these fine young men in Glenville, then I come back home to Mankato which totals 130 miles roundtrip everyday. On game nights I usually get back to Mankato between 1:00am-2:00am. Then it is off to class in the morning. On the weekends I need to work to be able to pay rent, because my "Big-Time" coaching job doesn't pay me until March. People ask me all the time why do you put yourself through that during basketball season, wouldn't it be much easier to finish school without all the stresses of having to come back to Glenville everyday. It's called Committment. I tell them I'm blessed to have the opportunity to work with these young men, you see it's not about me, it's about these kids. It's about giving back to your community, and being able to make a difference in these young players lives. That's something Special. It's not about making it to the top of the ladder, it's about making a difference in the lives of these kids. If you knew the relationship I have developed with my players you would withhold your mumblings from the peanut gallery. I have a very unique bond with my players, it has been a very rewarding experience, and in that respect I already have reached the top. Later, Dan Fredrickson
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minnow
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Posted on: Nov. 05 2003,7:35 pm |
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Hey...it's just basketball...just relax a little aiight?
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Kid Dyn O mite
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Posted on: Nov. 05 2003,8:07 pm |
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Now look, I'm certainly not implying anything here but perhaps your desire to spend so much time with preteen boys is not such a healthy thing...
....How old did you say you were?
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