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Studies have shown that kids in sports do better in the classroom and don't get into as much trouble.  Our school district needs to look at these studies and find a solution to the dismal efforts of our athletic programs.  Why would any kids want to go out for a sport, work their tails off just to have a losing season?
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I agree we gave our kids a state of the art school with a sports dept. and failed to give them the proper coaching staff to direct them.
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Albert Lea has had a very good swim coach, Jon Schmitz, his teams have always been at the top of the big 9 and have done well in state meets, about the only teams they can't handle are from the metropolitan area. :D
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I have heard to often a young person say  -  I don't go out for "Football", "basketball", etc... because I don't have the right last name.  Coaches need to learn that it's not the name of the athlete that makes them a good athlete it is the desire to be a good athlete with the right coach (encouragement) that will make them good, develop these players from early age and on the younger teams give them all playing time to develop, the 7,8,9th grade superstar may move, change there mind, get a job, have bad grades, etc... so develop all of the players you may be suprised to see the uncoordinated youth that has desire become the SUPERSTAR.  As far as I'm concerned it isn't about winning/losing until you play varsity... then you play to win.
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My youngest daughter played basketball from 6th grade on and was arguably the worst player on the team.  The team started with some 40 students in those early years all at varying degrees of ability. She wanted to quit, at one point, but we encouraged her to hang in there, and she did. Year after year, she sat on the bench, but because of her dedication to the sport she remained one of only 4 seniors left of the original 40 and was made captain.  I watched my daughter mature not in the spotlight of the basketball court but as the quiet, nurturing, studious captain that lead by example. Senior awards night arrived and the Athletic Director thanked me as a parent and congratulated her as a student for helping that team go the farthest they had ever gone in school history.  He told me "The team would not have been the same without her". Years later while attending a scholarship awards program at her college, a highly tauted professor sought me out to shake my hand while thanking me for allowing my child to attend their college, because it had been a priviledge for him to have her as his student .  Not every child is given athletic ability but every child is given some talent to share with others.  The leadership abilities that she learned while sitting on that bench inspired others then as well as today.  (And oh ya , I can tell you this, we are John Q Nobodys with the wrong last name!)

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 02 2003,8:21 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Just looking, couldnt agree more. Athletics was one of the reasons I open enrolled my son in Glenville Emmons 3 years ago when he was in 7th grade, now a freshman. They have what they call an equal playing time policy that says in all sports all the way up until you get to varsity, everyone gets pretty much the same playing time. Varsity does not have that rule, although no one is ever cut from the team because of ability. In Glenville Emmons, in my sons class as a 7th grader, they had a kid that was way beyond the others talent wise, he and his father refused to let him play with the other 7th graders, same in 8th grade. Problem is, in a small district like GE, you look at the 7th grade team and you are pretty much looking at the future varsity also. When they are seniors, this kid that didnt want to play with the others is going to have no choice but to have these kids for teammates. If he and his father want to have a good team in high school you have to give every kid at a younger age a chance to play and develope, and they have, without this superstar on the team they have shown big improvement every year. One kid went from being one of the worst in 7th grade to one of the best in 8th grade.
Lets not forget that Michael Jordan got cut from his junior high basketball team. At that age, like Just Looking said, you have to give them all playing time, you just dont know at that age what you are going to have by time they are seniors. I think AL's problem is the coach, most of them are only in it for the victory, some of these idiots think they are going to become big time coaches someday.


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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 03 2003,8:46 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I agree with equal playing time at young ages, however if you have an athlete that is far above the talents of others the same age age, why is it fair to not challenge this individual.  I think if you have someone in 8th, 9th grade that plays like juniors or seniors they should have the oppurtunity to play with them.  It is not right to hold someone back just so others their age have time to progress to the same level.
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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 03 2003,10:29 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I agree with that Tiger, I'm not saying that kid shouldnt be able to compete with the older kids, but you need to give the others a chance to develope at the same time. In the case I am talking about, it was better for the other kids that the superstar moved up a level, it made them play more like a team, everyone was involved, not just the one kid that was more talented than the others. My point was, that when these kids become juniors and seniors, that superstar better hope that the others have gotten some good playing time, because at that point he has no choice if they are his teammates or not. But in this case also, it has demoralized the rest of the team, the superstar thinks he is to good to play with the other kids, in high school he is going to have to depend on these same kids if he hopes to have a good season. As a team, that is, he can have a great season individualy, but what does it really mean if the team didnt? A leader and a superstars job isnt just scoring, rebounding, and defense, he should be able to make others around him better also. My worry is that by time these kids a seniors the team will be so split it wont be able to funtion.

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It sounds to me that his parents have a lot to do with his "attitude" of superstardom.  I was moved and started in two sports.  My friends cheered my on and thought it was great.  Therefore we were still a team when we were all at the varsity level.  My parents helped keep me grounded.  I tried to keep the "cockiness" to a minimum and show confidence on and off the floor.  This specific individual, especially at such a young age needs to have his parents discipline and they should not be encouraging this kind of behavior.
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