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If you could eat out every meal and cost was no object..would you?

I've been narfing the cashew chicken salads at Culvers...good sint mang. I eat at Hy-Vee alot. Wendy's salads are good.

I need to hire a mom. A high school girl would only be problems... like her boyfriend stealing from my house and stuff like dat.
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But the main problem here is that there are not really a lot of places for someone to make a career at in this County.
Sure we can get some really good classes and teachers/instructors to teach people a trade, then they have to leave the area or commute to actually find a job that will put their skills to use.
I have seen way too many of my friends go off to college, graduate with dreams of coming home, seeing all their friends, getting employed and settling down; only to have to take a job at the local grocer making squat. After spending all of that money on an education, they can't even come home to get employed and start a family; their only option is to make a new home somewhere else. When that happens for long enough, you get someplace like Freeborn County, where only those that are highly adaptable can survive. Luckily, I have been able to adapt. Not everyone is so lucky though...


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Minnow, you need to hire one big strong gal to do all of your house work. Hire another really hot young one to just sit around and look good, and, well, you know.  :D

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Good Discussion.  You ask me what I pay?  My son owns and runs the company, but he assures me no one makes less than $8 an hour.  That is inexperienced entry level and whatever else you want to call it.  The highest paid employee, who has no formal education, makes far more than anything mentioned in this discussion.  I just think $6 hour after 1 or 2 years is not enough.  I just think that not all of us are capable of becoming overnite entrepeneurs.  I just think that not all of us have imaginations capable of dreaming up jobss that pay
$45,000 annual.  We depend on good employers to do that for good employees.  Agree?
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You know, while I write this the haunting question keeps coming back to me of why all the nick names on this forum? What is wrong with our given names?  Jim Hanson uses his.  I use mine.  I wish I knew who some of you are so I know a little bit about who I am talking to.  And same for the inside jokes.  What on earth good does it do on this forum to give cute little side remarks that are understood by one or two?  I am not offended.  Keep on.  I just want to know what the contribution of that type of thing is?  Why would we not want to sign our name?  I can see that if you are  car dealer, you would not want to get too radical on a forum.  In that case, use a ficticious name.  All other times, sign your name.  OK?
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Warren, there isn't anyone going to make a living working at a gas station or c.store or many of these other places. If your 30,40,50 years old and don't have a trade or a profession you are just about out of luck. It is the young people that are just getting out of high school that must choose wisely when they consider college, and they must be willing to relocate after graduation. This is the way it is, not just in A.L. but any small town or city in the U.S. If some company located here with skilled or high paying jobs, how many of these people would qualify?
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Thanks, Warren, but I've got to warn people--if you are in business, or have government contracts, you may be "pressured"--two councilmen have received "pressure" from "County Officials" (that can only be the 4 Commishes plus the County Administrator) to "do something about" my posts.

I believe that to be effective, the name of the poster must be signed--otherwise, entrenched powers dismiss anonymous posts as somehow not worthy of even being noted.  I understand that there are some who for one reason or another don't dare sign their posts with their actual name, for fear of retribution--and I sympathize with them.  It is a horrible commentary on the state of the U.S. that it has come to this--people afraid to say what they think.  Makes you consider those that signed their name to the Declaration of Independence--and what THEY were risking.  It also reminds us that we are not that far removed from Nazi tyranny, Stalinist repression, or the vindictiveness of Saddam's regime--people DARE NOT SAY WHAT THEY THINK!

Whether people sign their name or not, they are still making a contribution in Forums like this one--exchanging unfiltered news, ideas, and views.  A FREE PRESS--even in small Forums such as this, is the biggest threat to Big Government control that there IS!


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Instead of wondering what my real name is...how bout you tell us about this brain fart you let go last year...

"AT ISSUE WITH MR. BEHLING

At last, I can stand it no longer. I must respond to this latest diatribe located on page 4 of Tuesday August 19th&#8217;s Tribune. Your reference to Aristotle&#8217;s dissertation on anger and other remarks in your column seem to indicate that it is OK to display a little fit of anger such as happened recently in the Commissioner&#8217;s meeting. And if you would elect to act in the same manner as Mr. Gabrielsen (as you said) then I choose not to be in a meeting with you.

Rask, I can guarantee you that Ron Gabrielsen is not happy about his loss of temper, and would not repeat it, and probably will not repeat it. I know him better than that. But don&#8217;t put your blessing on it, David Rask. You are wrong to do so. Give me a break, David

Why do you make references to the likes of Mr. Bill Gates? What would or could you possibly know about him? What steps have you walked in that arena of corporate life? Do you dislike him because he is a billionaire? Better that you thank God for men like Mr. Gates. I would like very much for you to spend some time contemplating where our capitol comes from.

Then, David Rask, you take some pokes at our president! You indicate that if Dan Belshan worked for the Bush administration, he could antagonize people to his heart&#8217;s content. What, in heaven&#8217;s name is your basis for such a crass statement? You need not refer to Mr. Belshan as the taxpayer&#8217;s messiah. That is childish!

And then, in conclusion, you take off on the people who elected Mr. Belshan. You seem to indicate that the people in the Glenville area cannot or do not get along with each other. I suggest that you go down to Glenville and get on your soapbox and proclaim some of that gospel to the listeners. Some of the many who worked so hard and so closely with one another on the recent tornado in Glenville might take serious issue with you. I find it difficult to understand the bashing of Dan Belshan and the accusations that he opposes everything. Wrong! Many many of his votes are one among 5 for a majority. But we can&#8217;t remember that? Or admit that?

Listen, David Rask, there is, in my opinion, plenty of blame to go around. Don&#8217;t be laying it all on Dan Belshan. Give him a break, too!

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I know what your saying Jim, I would love to sign My name--I am not afraid for Myself, but there is someone I am afraid for. Isn't that a sad comment to post in this free country?  We can't forget Ron G and his statement WE WILL RUIN THEM!!!!! Why do you think that the A.L.Tribune pulled there forum? A little outside persuasion?
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So now we have two (2)contributors calling themselves
"minnow"?  That further confuses me.  I am the new kid on the block insofar as these forums go, so I just don't get it.
Now, as to the "brain f____" that I let last year?  Last year?
Confused again, are you not?  I think that was a few weeks ago.  At any rate, I would repeat it tomorrow.  I meant it.  I still mean it.  I will be happy to debate it with anyone at any time.  Mr. Behling is what he is.  Read his columns and try to understand the message.  Say, Minnow, I just read the column again, and I repeat:  I would say, or write it just the same all over again.  That's the way I operate.  OK?
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A person needs to be smart enough to realize that most jobs at gas stations and grocery stores are not careers.   People should realize that staying in a kids job for 10 or 20 years is a serious mistake.  There is absolutely no good reason for an employer to pay extra for experience that does not add value - it only increases the cost of goods and services.  As we grow older we need better jobs with better pay, retirement plans and health insurance - especially if we intend to raise a family...

Okay, how 'bout this - I have a two-year degree for my profession and have been working at the same large company for over three years, and I'm making just over $11/hr.  The exact same job in Rochester gets STARTED at $13-$14/hr.  There's no way I could support a family on my wage, and I have a skilled, educated profession.

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