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Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2011,3:22 pm |
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Police have confirmed 91 deaths in the attacks: Seven from the bombing, and 84 at the political youth camp where the gunman opened fire after allegedly setting off a bomb in Oslo.
Norwegian media reported that the suspect belonged to an extreme right wing group, calling himself a "nationalist," and had at least a Glock pistol and machine gun registered in his name. He allegedly ran a company, GeoFarm, involved in farming "vegetables, melons, roots and tubers," and would have had access to chemical fertilizers used in bomb-making.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50...entBody
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Santorini
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2011,10:06 pm |
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Gotta love the media 
Norway has the same social problems we do here. The conservatives and the progressives (liberals) making the laws.
Conservatives want less government...
Liberals want more government.
The media paints the same picture of the conservatives in Norway that they do in our country.
They (the right) are all about protecting the rich. You know that all too familiar song and dance!! Not very original.
When parties become that separated; and some citizens feel they are losing tradition, values, morals etc.
to a [free-for-all-anything-goes] type society, of course extremists are going to be born out of this frustration. It is sad that our societies have come to this. Problems is with both our countries and societies
there will always be the haves and have-nots! And because of that we will continue to disagree and the media will continue to incite anger among the citizens. That is how the game is played.
Survival of the fittest 
Condolences to all those who lost their lives because of this senseless act and to their families.
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2011,10:26 pm |
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Imagine that a fundamentalist loon defending the insane actions of another fundamentalist loon.
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Glad I Left
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I guess I prefer the media calling a spade a spade. If he's a right wing nut, then let them call him that. Same if it was the other way.
But in the end, doesn't matter what type of nut he is, people are still dead.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2011,11:21 pm |
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Well obviously Norway needs more gun control and make murder even more illegal than what it is, that will stop the next one  
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2011,9:30 am |
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(Santorini @ Jul. 23 2011,10:06 pm)
QUOTE Conservatives want less government...
Got any facts to back that up, or is that just how you feel? If all it took to cut spending and balance the budget would be to talk about it, the conservatives would be doing great. But it takes more than talk, and that's why every balanced budget over the last 50 years has been done by a democratic President. 
Congressional control of those periods was either repub or dem. As I've pointed out many times according to the conservative Heritage Foundation, spending steadily increases regardless of Congressional leadership. The last republican to even PROPOSE a balanced budget was long before Reagan, we'd have to go back to the days of Eisenhower.
QUOTE Liberals want more government.
Both parties want more government, but only one party is willing to generate revenue to pay for it. Conservatives consistently over spend just like liberals, the only difference is they say taxes are bad so all the wars and bank bailouts aren't paid for under their plans.
QUOTE They (the right) are all about protecting the rich. You know that all too familiar song and dance!! Not very original.
On this I totally agree with you, I wish the republicans would come up with something new other than protecting tax breaks for the rich and kicking the can (debt) down the road to the middle class. 
In MN and the U.S. in general their main deal breaker is always keeping taxes low on millionaires while the sales, property, sin taxes, and fees skyrocket for the middle class. And the debt continually increases for future generations to deal with so the rich can get richer in the here and now.
QUOTE When parties become that separated; and some citizens feel they are losing tradition, values, morals etc.
to a [free-for-all-anything-goes] type society, of course extremists are going to be born out of this frustration. It is sad that our societies have come to this.
So, he felt that Norway was losing values and morals, so naturally the answer was to kill 91 people?
QUOTE The media paints the same picture of the conservatives in Norway that they do in our country.
The media is calling him what he was, a right-wing terrorist. That might make conservatives feel defensive, but that doesn't mean you can blame it on media bias. If he would've been a Muslim the media would jump on him for being an Islamic extremist. Like G.I.L. said, they're calling a spade a spade.
So, I wonder if Newt Gingrich is going to suggest we need to do something about right-wing fanatics. Profiling, maybe have Homeland Security put them on no-fly lists?
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2011,10:22 am |
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Just to clarify, the rifle he used WAS NOT a machine gun, it was a Ruger mini-14, semi-auto rifle. Wish the media would know the differences on weapons and types.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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