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Santorini 
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2011,10:26 am |
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Irish Eyes,
Yes...Democrats are about more government.
Too many [entitlement programs] (excluding SS; however there are issues with this that need to be addressed as well). The US can not be all things to all people.
The Republicans want to cut needless waste. We want jobs...real jobs that are created by the money-makers not the government.
Take MN shut down for example:
NON-ESSENTIAL programs were shut down! If they are classified non-essential why are they being funded in the first place 
And yes...
The media IS the source of angst and keeps perpetuating that angst. Where else do people get current information and [news?]! and most believe everything they hear or read from that [news] 
Take the Casey Anthony case for example. That case should have never received the ongoing publicity it did. But the media kept it alive all through the trial. The pundits kept inciting the riots in FL. The media did its best to sway public opinion without all the facts.
The same way we receive [news] from TV, in print, internet, its all pieces of fact woven mostly with opinion!
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2011,12:17 pm |
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Jul. 24 2011,10:22 am)
QUOTE Just to clarify, the rifle he used WAS NOT a machine gun, it was a Ruger mini-14, semi-auto rifle. Wish the media would know the differences on weapons and types.
I hadn't checked on the rifle, but I had wondered if that was the case. Often the people identifying these guns think that every assault rifle is a full-auto, instead of pointing out that they're almost always semi-autotomatic. Scary looking, but he could be just as dangerous (if not more) with a hunting rifle or shotgun.
Reminds me of a news story I read where the reporter identifies a firearm as "a large Glock revolver".
Santorini-
QUOTE Yes...Democrats are about more government.
Glad you're up to speed. Reread my post, I said both dems and repubs are about more government. Why keep the blinders on about what the repubs are doing?
QUOTE Too many [entitlement programs] (excluding SS; however there are issues with this that need to be addressed as well). The US can not be all things to all people.
Republicans expanded entitlement programs in the last decade. Remember the completely unfunded Medicare prescription drug benefit? That increased entitlement spending, and the first thing democrats do is make cuts to Medicare Advantage which added several years to the Medicare trust fund.
Where do you get your information? If spending, the deficit, and entitlements are important points that bother you, I don't understand why you don't acknoledge that republicans (and conservatives in general) don't have a track record that's any better.
QUOTE The Republicans want to cut needless waste. We want jobs...real jobs that are created by the money-makers not the government.
Ah yes, the waste. The repubs are really saving a lot with that. I bet we'll save enough to buy a Israel another billion dollars in weapons next year. Please, look at the actual discretionary budget at some point. The waste the repubs keep telling their constituents is the problem is such a small part it's irrelevant in the big picture, and then people are surprised that we close a bunch of planned parenthood clinics and what difference did it make? Long term that stuff actually costs more because you're making it more difficult for women to prevent unplanned pregnancies and for both sexes to get screened for STDs. They get knocked up or spread something, it's the taxpayers who foot the bill in the long-run.
QUOTE The media IS the source of angst and keeps perpetuating that angst. Where else do people get current information and [news?]! and most believe everything they hear or read from that [news]
A guy went off his rocker and decided to kill a bunch of people, you can blame the media if you want. I choose to blame the guy who pulled the trigger.
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Wolfie
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Posted on: Jul. 24 2011,10:30 pm |
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There is NO such thing as an assault rifle, that is a classification given to firearms by a media report. And throughout its continued misuse has included many firearms unfortunately. Also the only person that should be held responsible for a shooting, deliberately, accidental, or otherwise is the jerk behind the trigger.
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Many good men have died to guarantee your freedoms, live your life like it was worth dying for.
I have the ability to make the 1200 meter shot, but some targets deserve the up close kill, where you can watch the life leave the eyes while the blood ebbs from the body.
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Santorini
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Posted on: Jul. 25 2011,10:14 am |
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(Expatriate @ Jul. 24 2011,10:59 am)
QUOTE
(Santorini @ Jul. 24 2011,10:26 am)
QUOTE The Republicans want to cut needless waste. We want jobs...real jobs that are created by the money-makers not the government. Take MN shut down for example: NON-ESSENTIAL programs were shut down! If they are classified non-essential why are they being funded in the first place Eliminating the Homestead Credit and cutting Local Government Aid (LGA) will mean local property tax increases on the working class and local business, thank the Republicans for protecting millionaires and enacting their far-right social agenda... Someday little girl you'll wake-up look at the facts and realize the far-right doesn't represent US.. How are you going to get to school when the short bus is gone?
Expatriate,
Actually, the LGA is now frozen at 2010 levels for all cities. Not a cut...they chose not to increase, there is a difference!
They increased property tax refunds by 30 million for homeowners who qualify!
They decreased renters credit by about $80 on average starting in 2012
And the MVHC (market value homestead credit) is converted into the MVHE (market value homestead exclusion). Current law provides an exemption from property taxation for a certain amount of market value of the homestead of a disabled veteran...this is called market value homestead exclusion. No where does it say they are eliminating the homestead credit, but rather changing the terms.
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Jul. 25 2011,10:55 am |
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(Santorini @ Jul. 25 2011,10:14 am)
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(Expatriate @ Jul. 24 2011,10:59 am)
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(Santorini @ Jul. 24 2011,10:26 am)
QUOTE The Republicans want to cut needless waste. We want jobs...real jobs that are created by the money-makers not the government. Take MN shut down for example: NON-ESSENTIAL programs were shut down! If they are classified non-essential why are they being funded in the first place Eliminating the Homestead Credit and cutting Local Government Aid (LGA) will mean local property tax increases on the working class and local business, thank the Republicans for protecting millionaires and enacting their far-right social agenda... Someday little girl you'll wake-up look at the facts and realize the far-right doesn't represent US.. How are you going to get to school when the short bus is gone? Expatriate, Actually, the LGA is now frozen at 2010 levels for all cities. Not a cut...they chose not to increase, there is a difference! They increased property tax refunds by 30 million for homeowners who qualify! They decreased renters credit by about $80 on average starting in 2012
I agree with you about LGA this year, but if Dayton would've given in to repubs they would've cut LGA just like Pawlenty did before.
As for your remark about renters, I'd like to see a source that it begins in 2012. They made it retroactive to last years returns that are being refunded this year.
The point is, they protected the millionaires so they could once again take the money from education and people who are living paycheck to paycheck. Different year, same card trick.
Edit: I stand corrected, from previous reports it looked like LGA would stay the same. From the local paper looks like they found out different. LGA may go down, property taxes in Greater MN will go up. But don't worry, they're making sure the top 2% are covered in the state, and Boehner and Cantor are keeping the home fires burning in D.C. to do the same. 
Tribune, state aid change
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