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All I know is that we've turned into a very sick society, one that I never thought I'd see. When I was a young happy boy and looked out and saw the world before me, I never imagined the day when we as a people would see fit to destroy a sick person who grows a plant both civilly and criminally in a thing we call the drug war, meaning we seize assets as well as freedom. Yet another person can literally steal a million dollars and get a much, much lessor sentence. It's just really, really bazaar and tragic and I don't know how to explain it. How we got here. What happened to us?

I'd like tell all the people who were alive back then when I was 10 and made the world what it was, a big thank you and tell them I'm so sorry the way it turned out, because this is one sick, divided political country I can't even recognise anymore.


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Entitlement.  Any of these slogans ever been burned into your mind.  "You owe it to yourself" or "You deserve a break today".
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Santorini · Posted on Aug. 12 2011,1:11 am

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Stealing is secondary to the gambling compulsion.
In other words...you would not have one without the other!
It is just like a side effect of other medications...
    a side effect could be a rash and that rash
    would then lead to an infection...you would not
    have the infection were it not for the rash



Seems you and I have went a round or two about this a while back.

I'm going to reiterate to you once again that legal medications, legal drugs and illegal drugs, addictions and/or compulsive behaviors does NOT cause/create criminal behavioral choices.    

If this were a FACT, everyone who has taken/takes the same medication for RLS as Ms. Tuttle would make the SAME NEGATIVE behavioral choices to destroy their own lives and negatively impact the lives of INNOCENT people along the way.  

Behavioral reactions and choices are not and never will be in the same catagory as physical reactions to a chemical foreign to a person's body.

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Agreed, this whole stupid displace blame, because my medication made me do it is utter BullSHT.  This would be the same as saying "well the devil made me do it" if someone were to use that defense they would be locked up for observation.  So why believe the other? :dunno:   Take some damn responsibility for yourself and own up to it.  You made your bed now lie in it.  You wanting sympathy just isn't going to happen until you are truly sorry, and quit deflecting.


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Santorini · Posted on Aug. 12 2011,1:20 am

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It is not worth the effort to try to explain anything to these other posters.  Because of their judgemental postings and lack of ability to forgive...


Maybe it's you who doesn't "get it."  

Being angry, disappointed and wanting someone who has stolen from you in deceit to be ACCOUNTABLE and RESPONSIBLE for their choice to do this is a NORMAL response to an abnormal situation.  

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they will be the ones who suffer in the long run.  Grudges and anger
(especially over money), only hold a person back; it weighs them down; so they cannot move forward.


That's not a fact either.  

If someone stole all of the meals you bought and prepared to eat for a day in your life, I bet you would move forward and buy, prepare and eat meals the following day.  

I bet you could "forgive" the person who stole all your food for a day, yet you wouldn't ever forget that they stole from you and how it negatively impacted your life.  

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They stay stagnant.  Holding on to anger is so destructive to the human body and organs that it ages them.  But mostly being angry releases chemicals in the brain and actually lowers IQ


Just because someone talks about being negatively impacted by the poor choices of another person this doesn't make them "stagnant" or "destructive" to themselves or anyone else.
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mncowgirl · Posted on Aug. 12 2011,3:17 pm

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the humane society has had tons of fundraisers for what they lost from her, I wonder if the city would let me and the other  victims have one to try to get our money back! or maybe someone will get one started for us!


I understand what you are saying mncowgirl!  

When it comes to the "majority" of U.S. society...the ONLY victims of crime "worthy" of being acknowledged and cared about are those who are not capable of telling and talking about the crime committed against them.  

All others are expected to take part of the blame for what someone else chose to do to them and to grant that person with unconditional forgiveness whether the person admits and/or takes responsibility for what they did wrong or not.  

As far as I am concerned...everyone who was robbed by Ms. Tuttle is WORTHY of FINANCIAL support fundraisers...not just the Humane Society.
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The Humane Society should be thankful for all the publicity they have gotten through this experience. Becau
se of this I'm sure they have gotten donations they would not have received if this hadn't happened. I'm not sure I would want to donate to them anymore because of their vindictiveness


Why do you call the Humane Society vindictive?
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All I know is that we've turned into a very sick society, one that I never thought I'd see.


Ya think??   :clap:

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When I was a young happy boy and looked out and saw the world before me, I never imagined the day when we as a people would see fit to destroy a sick person who grows a plant both civilly and criminally in a thing we call the drug war, meaning we seize assets as well as freedom.


Although I don't agree with people's choices to willinginly break the law and then whine about the consequences...I do agree that it's ridiculous to imprison someone for an illegal drug crime for 25 years even though they did NOT do anything violent to another human being, yet those who do (without the presense of illegal drugs) always get less time when they are sentenced and never get their assets seized.  

In this country, getting drunk, driving and killing a person or two isn't considered to be as "bad" of a crime harmful to others when comparing the way illegal drug users and sellers are portrayed as the MOST DANGEROUS people that need to be caught and punished for the laws they're breaking.  

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Yet another person can literally steal a million dollars and get a much, much lessor sentence. It's just really, really bazaar and tragic and I don't know how to explain it. How we got here. What happened to us?


Huh?  

I thought you, out of everyone on this discussion forum, had an understanding of what is the MOST IMPORTANT AGENDA to government law enforcement agencies, attorney's, judges, state and federal law makers and media.

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I'd like tell all the people who were alive back then when I was 10 and made the world what it was, a big thank you and tell them I'm so sorry the way it turned out, because this is one sick, divided political country I can't even recognise anymore.


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Grinning_Dragon · Posted on Aug. 13 2011,1:37 pm

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Agreed, this whole stupid displace blame, because my medication made me do it is utter BullSHT.  This would be the same as saying "well the devil made me do it" if someone were to use that defense they would be locked up for observation.  So why believe the other?    Take some damn responsibility for yourself and own up to it.  You made your bed now lie in it.  You wanting sympathy just isn't going to happen until you are truly sorry, and quit deflecting


Exactly GD!!

If Ms. Tuttle was honestly being responsible for what she has done to harm other's, she wouldn't be doing anything else except trying to make amends for it.  

Sorry is good, change is always better!
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Stoner: maybe you just don't understand what a players card is. It's looks like a  credit card and has your name and an account number on it. You can use it if you like, but it's not required. The purpose of using it is to build up points. Points help you get comps like free rooms at the hotel, free food, merchandise from the casino, and money to gamble. You only get the comps if you use the card. If you are playing two machines at a time then only one is going to report the money you are spending. It is rumored that Ms Tuttle did play two machines at a time. It's nothing abnormal to see people do that. So....it's almost impossible to know what she did spend at the casino. I didn't see it said anywhere that she had won $6oo,ooo that she walked out with. I'm guessing it went down the drain with the other money.
I believe her husband is paying her way now. You were worried where she is getting her money to live on...that's it.
Don't believe she is sucking money off the rest of us by claiming to be on SSI because of her OCD.


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im sorry but that darn OCD crap is a bunch of bullcrap her laywer came up with to try to get her less jail time! I dont care what anyone sais about her that didn't loose TONS of money from her, it took me 40 fricken yrs to get my first house, I saved and saved and saved and suffered without things I wanted to get my house, and because of her im going to loose it! so OCD crap is a bunch of crap! I hope she rots in jail! no excuse for what she did!
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