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alcitizens 
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jul. 09 2011,1:41 am |
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End the Shutdown NOW.
The secret politicians aren't telling is that the ultra rich in Minnesota are taxed at a LOWER rate than the rest of us!
Very Richest – 9.7% effective tax rate
Working Families – 12.1% effective tax rate
If the richest Minnesotans paid their share it would generate enough revenue to end the shutdown today!
Stand up now: Tell the richest 2% to pay their share.
Add your name to petition
http://action.mnfaireconomy.org/page/s/EndShutdown?source=MFE_blog
http://www.mnfaireconomy.org/
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Jul. 09 2011,2:08 am |
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Class warfare, as sexy as it is to the 45% of Minnesotans who pay zero in income taxes, leaves out the less sexy bigger picture of class welfare that is bleeding you dry.
Start with spending cuts and then look at the revenue side. Your fundamental problem is spending. If you don’t limit the size of government now then government will continue to grow unlimited evermore.
There is a tipping point where reigning in spending will become impossible because of the raw weight of political influence on the “taking” side of the argument. Mark Dayton’s $4billion tax increase and 22% raise for public employees at a time when every Minnesota family is taking a pay cut is in a word: “immoral”.
Taxing the rich is not going to have the effect you think it will. It all boils down to basic mathematics in this regard, as taxing the rich will NOT generate revenue and will have the opposite effect.
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*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
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Stone-Magnon
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Posted on: Jul. 09 2011,2:29 am |
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So you're advocating for huge tax breaks on higher income people while at the same time advocating for wiping out the safety net. A safety net you may need one day.
You want 90% of the wealth to go to the top 10% while at the same time making sure the poor get nothing or far less.
Why...because of your views on abortion?
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Jul. 09 2011,12:59 pm |
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Stone
QUOTE So you're advocating for huge tax breaks on higher income people while at the same time advocating for wiping out the safety net. A safety net you may need one day.
In a short answer: YES.
Also it is not the taxpayers responsibility nor the govt, to provide a safety net, that responsibility falls on the individual. We make every effort to provide for the bad economic days when they hit. A little common sense with a budget, investments in stocks, 401k, ROTHS,ect. and limiting non essential purchases. People do not need to have everything, at times you have to do without.
QUOTE You want 90% of the wealth to go to the top 10% while at the same time making sure the poor get nothing or far less.
And you seem to think that wealth is a shared item among all, when it isn't. The poor are poor, well because they are poor and have every opportunity to change their situation with alot of hard work, but most do not want to put in the hard work and effort and expect everything to be handed to them because life isn't fair. Well WAAAAAHH life ain't fair, get use to it. There is always going to be the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS. This is the way it is and the way it will always be.
QUOTE Why...because of your views on abortion?
UMMM, WTF? does this have to do with anything.
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*SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS / MOLON LABE / Se Defendendo
memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Jul. 09 2011,1:03 pm |
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(alcitizens @ Jul. 09 2011,2:52 am)
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Jul. 09 2011,2:08 am)
QUOTE Mark Dayton’s $4billion tax increase and 22% raise for public employees at a time when every Minnesota family is taking a pay cut is in a word: “immoral”. Why don't you ever give a link to prove what you're saying? 22% Raise?  "It's kind of hard to sell 'trickle down,' so the supply-side formula was the only way to get a tax policy that was really 'trickle down.' Supply-side is 'trickle-down' theory." —David Stockman, Ronald Reagan's budget director http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics
Well I got it from Here
But you will dismiss it anyway, because it didn't come from the all so truthful left leaning websites you are so very well fond of.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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pepi-lapew
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Posted on: Jul. 09 2011,1:18 pm |
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Why shouldnt the low incme,middle income pay some of the taxes. You can only soak the rich so far.
Tell those lazy idots to go find a job. I started working at age 15 and still working at age 67.
The worst part of the taxes is EARNED INCOME CREDIT Why should a lazy a$$ get three times more back than what they paid in!!!!!!
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Jul. 09 2011,2:47 pm |
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typical govt lover. Instead of debating the data provided, you result to ad hominen attacks against a person.
If you cannot refute the data then say so.
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*SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS / MOLON LABE / Se Defendendo
memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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