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The wealthy like Rupert Murdock (FOX News) have the power to change peoples perceptions of what is right and turn them into something that will only harm them. Not saying people are stupid, more like uneducated enough to know that the wealthy will lie and cheat them for every dime they can get. Their playing fun little games with other peoples lives and the only thing important in their game is to build more wealth.
What better way can you brainwash people other than TV.
Murdock and other wealthy players support the efforts of FOX News to help them gradually accumulate more and more of the worlds wealth.
Sorry Bastxrds...

WTF? Are you completely retarded or is this a new incarnation of another PH personality?

You seriously choose Rupert Murdoch because of his ownership of FNC and the fact that FNC is not like most of the MSM and it's liberal bias. You have to be about as brain dead as it gets.

You want to talk about the rich getting richer let's take a look at rich. Let's look at Hollywood and the well known Liberals who espouse their political views and expect the rest of us to believe what they say simply because of their status as celebrities. These are the same people who get paid a lot more than the average citizen and they don't work nearly as hard for that money as most of us who post here do. Oh yeah and one more thing about Hollyweird.....it has more power to change people's lives and perceptions than FNC by a larger margin than FNC will ever have.

Ted Turner is decidedly rich and also decidedly left leaning. True he no longer owns CNN but I am sure he is not suffering in the soup kitchen line.

You want to talk about rich let's talk about the Kennedy family and the millions they have stashed offshore to avoid the taxes. Let's talk about how the Kennedy family has this thing about their god given right to be in public office because of the fact that they are Kennedy's.

Rupert Murdoch is one man amongst many who has made a fortune in whatever business they are in. The problem with your flawed logic about Murdoch attempting to keep the poor down while he and his rich brethren keep getting richer is that you forget that a significant number of the wealthy are also Liberals who preach about one side of life while living the very thing they condemn.

I highly doubt that people support Murdoch and FNC to help him and those like him get richer. Perhaps FNC has become the success it has because the majority of people got sick of the left wing bias of the other news channels.

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In a 2008 interview with Walt Mossberg, Murdoch was asked whether he had "anything to do with the New York Post's endorsement of Barack Obama." Without hesitating, Murdoch replied, "Yeah. He is a rock star. It's fantastic. I love what he is saying about education. I don't think he will win Florida... but he will win in Ohio and the election. I am anxious to meet him. I want to see if he will walk the walk.


I'd say that for an Australian born US Citizen this man has done quite well for himself. After reading the Wiki article on him I do not think that he is a conservative in the same manner that we see them here in the USA.

Next time Alci how bout you find something you might actually know about to discuss. Until then leave the adult conversations to the adults.

(We now return you to your regularly scheduled intelligent discussion about the original topic.)


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Yet no posts on the article?

Wareagle-  what's your opinion on the healthcare bill? Should be voted on and passed by Tuesday.


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I will discuss the question as well as your first post in this topic later today Nphil. Right now it is off to check the 'ol eyelids for any holes.  :D

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The fascists in America are the neocon. This has been no secret.

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Why respond to that socialist wet dream of an article, I could talk till I was blue in the face.  Apparently people seem to be of the idea that the United States practices Democracy.


I am not going into why that article is a FAIL.  Until you can comprehend Constitutional construction and the vision our Founding Fathers laid forth, and why this country was founded as a Constitutional Republic and not some POS democracy, I am not going to waste my time going in circles with anybody.

Constitutional Republic = WIN
Progressiveness = FAIL.


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Just wondering if we took this health care reform/bill and changed it to education reform/bill, would the dems and/or lefts be all up in arms like they claim the repub/rights to be?

I had an interesting conversation with a liberal former co-worker of mine on this last week.  I think we put new ideas into each others heads to think about.
Might discuss later, too nice of a day out now to be on the puter...


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The wealthy like Rupert Murdock (FOX News) have the power to change peoples perceptions of what is right and turn them into something that will only harm them. Not saying people are stupid, more like uneducated enough to know that the wealthy will lie and cheat them for every dime they can get. Their playing fun little games with other peoples lives and the only thing important in their game is to build more wealth.
What better way can you brainwash people other than TV.
Murdock and other wealthy players support the efforts of FOX News to help them gradually accumulate more and more of the worlds wealth.
Sorry Bastxrds...

I respect that you have a right to an opinion. But its Wrong!!
Just look at the jobs lost that will "never" return. The filthy rich, conservative republican, NEOCON has moved those jobs to other countries. Are these rich bastards out of a job? No, their making more money paying less in wages and taxes and making people like you(brainwashed) love it.
Not everyone can work and not everyone can get a college degree, so what happens to them??
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I respect that you have a right to an opinion. But its Wrong!!
Just look at the jobs lost that will "never" return. The filthy rich, conservative republican, NEOCON has moved those jobs to other countries. Are these rich bastards out of a job? No, their making more money paying less in wages and taxes and making people like you(brainwashed) love it.
Not everyone can work and not everyone can get a college degree, so what happens to them??

The neocons are responsible for this how? Please provide links and sources for your claims Alki or else go back to your room and continue watching Spongebob.

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Please provide links and sources for your claims Alki or else go back to your room and continue watching Spongebob.

Great question. Just go to FOX News. :rofl:
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Great question. Just go to FOX News. :rofl:

Once more I shall say that unless you have links and sources for your statement Alki please go back to your room and watch Spongebob while the adults are having an intelligent conversation.

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