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minnow 
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Posted on: Apr. 01 2004,1:20 pm |
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It's weird how a perfectly rational person like Jim can be so easily led by Republican lacky proaganda.
I mean these nutballs are still bringing up Clinton! That says it all...
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Apr. 01 2004,1:46 pm |
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C'mon, Minnow--you are "trolling" for a "strike"--trying to provoke a reaction.
I took the time to mention Presidents Wilson, Roosevelt (Teddy), Roosevelt (Franklin), Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II--and you had to go so far afield as to use the single question I asked of Hoosier | Quote | | So, Hoosier, since Clinton used force, HE must have thought it worthwhile to be involved in the area (or WAS it "Wag the Dog"?) |
to label it as "propaganda". Never mind that I find the Republican party is too much like the Dems--I haven't given them a donation for years.| Quote | | Republican drivel--Nah, Bush is too much like a Democrat--big spending, "me too" prescription drugs, offering amnesty to illegals, big government, instituted Homeland Security and the TSA. Unfortunately, there is too little chance for a meaningful third-party challenge. Too bad there are no Libertarian commercials--then we could TRIANGULATE this discussion. |
If you would like to bring up Clinton, I am willing to engage--as stated before, the Republicans PERSONALIZING the Presidential election as embodied by Clinton was a "sea change" in Presidential elections--now seen as PERSONALIZING the fall elections--not about what party will win, or talking about IDEAS--only about DEFEATING BUSH.
Like I said, let's talk about ISSUES, NOT LABELS.
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,4:22 pm |
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War is the cost of freedom.
If it was cheap than it would be more common in the world. Plain and simple.
All that link shows is that there are enablers alive and well in the world, nothing more.
I think western Europe adopted an appeasement approach to dealing with Hitler's scare tactics in the 1930's. Those super smart Europeans ended up needing us again.
We can't just pull back into a shell and pretend there aren't bad people in the world that want to hurt us. Screw that. We need to show the world that anyone who is in business to do us harm will suffer terribly. I for one will never give in to fear. Push come to shove, you will find most Americans don't care about the cost to preserve freedom, thats what makes us Americans.
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minnow
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,4:32 pm |
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"I for one will never give in to fear"---->That's funny. Because that's exactly what you're doing! 
War is the cost of freedom.---->Depends on which war...
If it was cheap than it would be more common in the world. Plain and simple.----->The only thing plain and simple is your "short bus" logic. 
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,4:37 pm |
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What would you cal flying paaenger plains into buildings. An early Thanksgiving Day gift.
Move to your precious Europe and cry about it with the rest of the apologists in Socialist Spain and weak kneed France.
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minnow
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Posted on: Apr. 03 2004,4:51 pm |
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Was Iraq responsible for that?
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,2:59 am |
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Weren't they?
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farouk
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,5:27 pm |
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Truth that is nothing more than a hunch, which you are intitled to. Many of us had the same thought at the time but unfortunately, 2 1/2 years later no one has proved it, and those who have something to gain if it were proved are distancing themselves for such claims.
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minnow
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,5:35 pm |
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Do you mean to tell me that truth---->just realized the truth.
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Truth
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2004,5:39 pm |
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I say again prove that they weren't.
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