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Great post Hoosier. "You are just blinded by your support for republicans"

Exactly! Sorry Jim, I didn't even read your last post, because I'm sure it's jut more blind BS. Don't get me wrong. I used to think you were the smartest poster on these boards, but now it appears that you ARE indeed BLINDED in this matter. Even a blind person could see it.

Your arguments are so stupid..so weak, they don't even deserve a response at this point. It's like your spouting Republican lacky propaganda telling us the sun is out, when all we have to do is look out the window and see it raining!

Now I have no equal here. I'm without a doubt the #1 brain here. Sorry Jim, but there really is no excuse...

You are in the end just a blinded knucklehead...next.
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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,1:14 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

And Hoosiers post was "objective"?  And you view it "objectively"?  As Jeff Foxworthy would say "Here's your sign". :p

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Dam minnow, have you been in the anhydrous again.  #1 brain, ya right.  There are some day you have trouble string two words together coherently, and you think that you can replace Jim as our community's resident knower of all things great and small.  So he has a weekness for that Republican dribble, at least it is put forth in coherent full sentences.
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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,1:49 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Let me get this straight...

The wrong idea expressed nicely---->is better than the right idea expressed poorly.

Hrmmm. I disagree.
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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 31 2004,4:09 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

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The wrong idea expressed nicely---->is better than the right idea expressed poorly.

Wrong?  As that Big Daddy of all Democrats, Mayor Daley, Sr. used to say  
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"It depends on who is counting the votes"!
 That's the problem with "arguing" politics--define "wrong" when it comes to policy?

Republican drivel--Nah, Bush is too much like a Democrat--big spending, "me too" prescription drugs, offering amnesty to illegals, big government, instituted Homeland Security and the TSA.  Unfortunately, there is too little chance for a meaningful third-party challenge.  Too bad there are no Libertarian commercials--then we could TRIANGULATE this discussion. :D


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I'll try to speak for the Libertarian party when possible.  Because of work, school and other commitments, I have not been active the last few days. I have been keeping up reading, but not answering because so many things have been said here that I had not heard before in that fashion, and Farouks posting stunned me.  I have no choice but to look them up and later respond, like this weekend.  I am a very reluctant Bush supporter, and some of the things I read on another thread, are making me reevaluate even that.  Problem is I have a good memory, and I am getting older and wiser, and I am not beginning to hear of Kerry shady deals because of the election, but rather I remember the stories when they first happened.  If Bush is as crooked as Farouk says, then I cannot support him either.  I need to see data and objectively look up his arguments.  Wow, that was quite a diatribe.  Some of it I do not need to look up because I know that those things he said are opinion, but if Bush was really best friends with the Enron gang, I will be very disappointed.  If he is hindering justice, I will be mad.  Just like Marge and Paul should resign for trying to break a federal law.  All I know as of today is that I still think Bush is right in being aggressive and not caring what the world thinks.  I care what everyone thinks about me, but if attacked physically, and fearing for my safety in the future, I would go after the threat, and not care what anyone said.  But that is just me.  What assurance would I have that Mr. Kerry would continue the fight and not just pull the plug?  I know some people feel you should never resort to violence, and I abhore violence, I've seen a lot of it, but sometimes you just have to fight, and I think this is one of those times.

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I am still trying to find the law enforcement to population ratios between Freeborn County and Cerro Gordo County.  Should have an answer soon.   :laugh:  Truth wants it you know.

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I looked into it one time many years ago and if memory serves. AL has at least 50% more cops per capita....the drink police as I like to call them.

---we're the drink police and we're coming for you---Cheaptrick

The city counciler makes money getting em drunk and then the city swarms the downtown at closing time looking to pick up a few $1000 fines. It's a good racket, Tony Soprano would be proud. I've got a better idea. Let's let the arresting officer keep $100 cash money for his family off every OWI. Only when police are fairly compensated do we acheive justice. You know as well I do pot smokers, drinkers and meth heads should be all lined up and shot anyhow. Why do you care if cops are unfair to them? It's all their fault we have to spend $40 million on a jail in the first place. Every problem in life can be traced back to them.
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Jim, how about the floopy disk with Bush advisers telling BUsh that if we make this election about the economy, we lose, if we make it about the war, we win? This was before we invaded. I could go on and on, but you seem to be the only person here that believes everything that comes out of Bush's mouth.
And my last post was objective, it doesnt matter to me if he is republican or demacrat. We all know that it does matter to you Jim. I bitch about the republicans because of what they do when they are in office, by the way, demacrats are no better in my opinion, they just arent the ones costing us billions in tax money and U.S. lives at this momment.
Jim on the other hand bitch;s about the demacrats because of who they are and what they believe in.
If you want objective, non partisan discussion, Jim Hanson should not be allowed to post here.  :D


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if we make this election about the economy, we lose, if we make it about the war, we win?
How is this different than "It's the ECONOMY, stupid?"
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This was before we invaded
He was talking about the war on Terrorism!

As I mentioned in an earlier thread, the biggest problem in "arguing" politics is that people tend to use a "one-size fits all" "broad brush".  As Mr. Tarzan laid out the "ground rules", IF we are going to argue politics, it needs to be on verifiable SPECIFICS, not political polemics.  State your assertion, be able to verify it with facts, and engage in dialogue--not useless drivel like "I don't believe a thing that comes out of Bush/Kerry's mouth".  That doesn't convince anyone of anything--except that the speaker is highly partisan.  Stick to the facts.

I asked specific questions--no answers.
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So, Hoosier, since Clinton used force, HE must have thought it worthwhile to be involved in the area (or WAS it "Wag the Dog"?)


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I laid out above the experiences and quotes of a number of U.S. presidents, in their conduct of wars.  Those willing and able to use force, for the most part, DIDN"T have to use it.  Those that were APPEASERS, or refused to get involved, ended up having to fight.  Just how would YOU conduct foreign affairs?  How would YOU react to a dictator that killed millions of people, that gave rewards to suicide bombers, that was a destabilizing agent in the area, that exported terrorists, that fired on U.S. aircraft enforcing the No-fly zone, that formerly had biological and nuclear weapons programs, showed a willingness to use them, and kicked the UN inspectors out of the country so they couldn't verify them?

Finally, do YOU Accept or Repudiate Kennedy's charge?


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