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Ole1kanobe 
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,4:57 pm |
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I went to the truck stop today about 11:00 ish this morning to get some gas and there were a bunch of State Troopers directing traffic around an accident between a semi truck and 1 or 2 cars. I couldn't really see much of the accident, but I talked to someone this afternoon that said that the accident was there as early as 8:00 this morning.
Anyone know what happened out there?
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,5:12 pm |
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i think a semi pulled out in front of a chevette,and drove over the car.16 year old girl was driving the car.think maybe they should ticket these semi drivers for reckless driving when they just pull out like they do.
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,5:24 pm |
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Unrelated accident, but another "what happened". A friend was coming home around midnight last night, saw a squad car (didn't say if it was a police or county vehicle) wrapped around a fire hydrant near Americana Bank--one other vehicle down the road a piece--officer walking around dazed. Several other police (or county) vehicles came up--my friend was going to take a photo--was told "would you like to spend the night in jail?" (for taking a photo). RUMOR that someone got in the middle of a high-speed chase.
Edited by jimhanson on Sep. 15 2003,5:48 pm
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GEOKARJO
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,7:07 pm |
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Yes Jim that is called obstruction justice and also obstructing a criminal investigation, time delay film without a flash or a digital without a flash with zoom goes undetected
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,7:40 pm |
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It WAS a digital camera--they just saw him getting ready to take the picture--he hadn't taken it yet, so there couldn't have been a bitch about the flash. He wasn't attempting to take a picture of the other car--just the squad car.
Spend a night in jail for taking a picture? I question whether that would stick. I don't think there is a law against that--and the "obstruction of justice" would be pretty hard to prove intent. Newsmen, and the general public, film crime scenes every day.
Edited by jimhanson on Sep. 15 2003,7:46 pm
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Ole1kanobe
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,9:22 pm |
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I wonder if the press have special rights since they are part of the media, of course getting their shots approved as to not 7 with the investigation or possible evidence that may play a crucial part in prosecution or defense.
As for the Trail's accident, I have yet to see anything via newspaper or tv on it. Maybe because a minor could have been involved?
Let's here it 1adam12, you know more than I do when it comes to this type of stuff, do PD's withhold info from the media when a minor is involved in an accident? (perhaps this accident turned fatal and no one knows yet?)
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,10:23 pm |
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The guy should have made them take him to jail, then make them explain it to everyone why they did it.
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Posted on: Sep. 15 2003,11:47 pm |
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How is taking a picture of a wrecked city squad car obstruction of justice or impeding a criminal investigation? I am not saying you are wrong, GEOKARJO, but rather asking in all seriousness.
I was the one that nearly took the picture and was threatened by a freeborn county sheriff's deputy with confiscation of my camera and a trip to jail. Both the deputy (who did identify himself when I asked his name) and an ALPD officer repeatedly insisted that "this is a crime scene" and I would not be allowed to take a picture. At least a dozen bystanders standing in the Americana parking lot witnessed these officers threaten me with going to jail either for taking a picture - or perhaps arguing with the deputy as to legality of me taking the picture. I had put the camera in my jacket when the office was threatening to take me to jail - so perhaps he felt that arguing with him was what merited a trip to the lockup.
It is unclear to me how I would be impeding a criminal investigation - nor how I would be disturbing a crime scene. When I was preparing to take the picture there was a wrecker hooking up to the squad car - and certainly more scene-disturbing light was being shown on the vehicle by the wrecker than my flash could have offered had I used it.
If taking a picture of a wrecked police car is indeed illegal, I suppose I could be happy I heeded the threats of jail and left the Americana parking lot as I was told by the officers. However if the police were simply intimidating me from taking a picture that they felt might embarass their fellow officer, I am a bit upset that my tax dollars are paying these guys. Frankly the two officers in question were very confrontational and not very informative.
Perhaps Hoosier is right, I should have called their bluff and let them arrest me. 
I too am curious what happened. It appears to me that the city cop might have been chasing a car that turned from northbound Newton to westbound Main and turned too late - hit the sign in the median and tore open the radiator. It apears that the cop was going fast - and missed the turn much more badly - rather than continue straight on Newton and recover and double back.
I had hoped the tribune would have an explanation today - but I saw no mention of the crash nor of whatever crime constituted the "crime scene".
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2003,12:36 am |
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Do you recognize any of them in this picture?
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Posted on: Sep. 16 2003,2:27 am |
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Why don't you guys quit assuming things and wait for the facts. people wonder why albert lea is the factory for gossup and bs. maybe the officer was chasing the late jeffery dahmer or maybe president bush was in a stolen car, or better yet maybe ron g stole a car from a stripper and was running from the police...or maybe some confused driver ran a red light and collided with a squad that was running "code" to an emergency call.
""I too am curious what happened. It appears to me that the city cop might have been chasing a car that turned from northbound Newton to westbound Main and turned too late - hit the sign in the median and tore open the radiator. It apears that the cop was going fast - and missed the turn much more badly - rather than continue straight on Newton and recover and double back."" What you were there??? STICK TO COMPUTERS
Obstruction Legal Process
CRIME: Whoever intentionally does any of the following may be sentenced as provided in Sub 2
(2) obstructs, resists, or INTERFERES with a peace officer while the officer is engaged in the performance of official duties
Sub 2 (3) imprisonment for not more than 90 days or to payment of a fine not more than $700, or both
how would you feel if the next time your wife, husband, son or daughter got into a bad enough crash that fire had to come and cut them out, then to add insult to injury a bunch of nosey people showed and started to take pictures. how about instead of questioning everything the PD and SO do you just finally listen to them when they have a request such as the one given???
is taking the picture obstruction??? to me, yes...to you, no. it would be one for the judge and jury. but next time for the respect of those injured just step back and let police and fire do their jobs. it could be you next time and i for one would rather render first aid than have to deal with nosey subjects
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