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super girl 
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,2:33 pm |
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yes she has a drinkin problem but i am very close to her family and everyone in it.... and she would never hurt and of them drunk er not! she is getting help and sees she has a problem i think you should give her some credit for that! she has never treated any f us girls badly. the ones who whine about her are the ones who couldn't handle being on a sport.. she was a coach who new how far we could go and pushed us so we could preform to our fullest!
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minnow
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,4:17 pm |
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You didn't answer the question. She's helping herself but... is she going to compensate her victims?
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super girl
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,5:39 pm |
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she doesn't have any "victims" her family is working through this... all families have problems if people get into it er not everyone has problems.. everyone in this town hates her and they all no it and you people make it 20 times harder for them... so consider it this way people in this town made it hard for donna to live here and find a job and crap so now her family is having to deal with it 
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| Post Number: 204
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,5:59 pm |
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Soooo, you are all standing behind her, is that because you are afraid to stand in front?  Are you afraid she will hit you or run you over? 
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super girl
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,6:21 pm |
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i stand up for her becuase we all love her! there are many people in this town that have gone out drinkin and actually hurt people and they don't get all this crap with it! people are just out to get her! i'm proud to stand up for her! hell i'll be in front of her and protect her from all this crap any day!
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| Post Number: 206
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Clovis
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,6:31 pm |
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super girl, please take a step back and look at this from other people's points of view. It should be more of an outrage that people have gone out and hurt people while drunk, yes - but what the issue (that has been beaten to death here) is that she exhibited some of the classic symptoms of a) drinking and b) a serious problem with drinking... while she was in charge of the safety and well-being of minors. This is an issue called "moral turpitude" and is not acceptable in school employees. It was brought up but not looked into - if the school had taken some of this seriously early on, then maybe it wouldn't have blown up to this proportion, wouldn't have so seriously ruined her reputation, and wouldn't have so seriously hurt her family.
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ENOUGH
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,6:46 pm |
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Clovis where did YOU get your information!!!! Over the passed several months many injustices have occurred and this school district may be facing a law suit, if indeed they knew about drinking problems WHY were parents not notified? Doesn't everyone have a breaking point - and with most employers help would be offered to the employee instead of public ridicule!
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| Post Number: 208
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,6:46 pm |
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I admire your courage and devotion, no matter how blind it is. I cannot see how any organization that ended up so divided could have been lead by someone deserving of such devotion. You are obviously in a small minority, knowing many of the many that left. After many years of being a youth leader I learned that you cannot keep them all, or make them all a success, or even happy. Still I never lost near as many youth participants, nor do I know anyone who ever coach that ever did lose as many in any sport or youth activity.  Even if I did not personally observe some very inappropriate behavior, which I did, the numbers speak for themselves super girl As I said at the beginning, your loyalty is admirable, but you need to stand back and look at the whole situation now that she has been outed and realize that as much as you can feel affection for someone, you can't always defend them. Sometimes our heros let us down and you just have to accept that they are not who you thought that they were, as is the case here. The team attrition rate was way to high for the problem to have been anything but the coach. Period. The town does not, nor has it ever, gotten together and plotted against anyone so unimportant in the big scheme of things. She was just a cheer coach. People did'nt even know her until she started to make herself notorious. She got people to dislike her, they did not just wake up and decide to do it one day, she now has to be held accountable for all of her acts. That is the hardest lesson we all learn in life, if you want to dance, sooner or later you will have to pay the band. Take that loyalty and give it to someone that is more deserving, and you will go far someday. ;) I know some of the joking here has been a little out of line for people that are emotionally involved with Donna, but the situation is no different then people putting out satire on Saturday Night Live. When people in the public eye screw-up, they usually get lambasted and that is just another tough part of public life, so try not to get too upset about it. A cheer coach going home without her husband at 2:44 in the morning and pulling a hit and run on a house, and resisting arrest, is only tragic to those close to the coach, to the rest of the world it is a pretty funny newspaper articale.
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super girl
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,6:52 pm |
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are you close to the family or heard everything that is making you feel that way towards her from someone reliable? we no almost everthing about the situation... i am friends with her duaghter so we hear everything from her, her mom, and everything that everyone is saying and besides her and her mom nothign is the same.
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MrTarzan
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2004,6:55 pm |
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hheeeyyyyyyyy i get it, this is Jeff right? that's pretty good Jeff I thought you actually were an impressionable mislead girl for a minute 
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