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Posted on: Jan. 28 2004,5:59 pm |
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Well, now that we've spent the money for a study, we may as well spend 8 million on a library or the 8 thousand will be wasted. 
Isn't it nice the study picked the same site as Sparkey and the librarian. It's funny how things work out like that isn't it... 
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ICU812
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Posted on: Jan. 30 2004,12:27 pm |
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Con for Walmart site. Potential identity problem
A sign above the door that says LIBRARY might fix that con. 
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LisaMarie
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Posted on: Jan. 30 2004,12:31 pm |
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Or painting it a different color other than Wal-Mart blue.
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Posted on: Jan. 30 2004,12:42 pm |
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how about taking part of the parking lot and turning it into a park area to also better identify it. That way the kids would have a park to have activities in that coordinate with library activities
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ICU812
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Posted on: Jan. 30 2004,12:43 pm |
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As far as a new library goes I think they should put it on Pam Bishops shoulders. If she can bring in enough new business to generate the tax money needed for a new library then the city can build it how they want, where they want and when they want.
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Posted on: Jan. 30 2004,1:13 pm |
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Yes, and isn't amazing that this site gives Barkema the two most important things she wants, parking and a lake view.
I find it amazing that the consulting company found this the cheapest and most convenient site, and it's right where half our city officials wanted it in the first place, including Barkema.
So they build a a city building on a piece of prime tax revenue property instead of letting some business come in and build a business that would generate tax income for the city.
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Posted on: Jan. 30 2004,2:37 pm |
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Hell MADDOG, they couldn't build it at our new WATERPARK down at the FARMLAND site, you know where the caseno is also going. Why the pages would get all wet and hard to turn.
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Posted on: Jan. 30 2004,3:14 pm |
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| Quote | | Why the pages would get all wet and hard to turn. |
Spoken like someone who has experience with wet and hard to turn pages......
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Posted on: Jan. 30 2004,6:12 pm |
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Reviewing the library report from the link provided on this thread--there are some areas on which I'd like to have additional information.
From the Librarians 2003 report| Quote | | The library now has fourteen public computer workstations that provide access to the Internet, a very high demand service with 30,000 people using these computers annually. |
Not 30,000 uses, 30,000 people--more than the population of the entire County, including elderly and pre-school (see quote below, from same document).
| Quote | | So if the whole population of Freeborn county is considered to be a service population (basic and extended) and they form 100 percent of the circulation, for this assignment for the design population, I will use a total of 34 750 patrons - the projected population for the county in the year 2020. (Minnesota Planning - http://www.mnplan.state.mn.us/). |
| Quote | | What interests the library planners is the fact the predictions show the largest part of county population in 2020 will be age 10- 19 years |
Can this be true? Perhaps we should look at expanding the schools by 2025.
(Videos, from 1996 study)| Quote | | Extremely popular items in Albert Lea Library. Due to the distance traveled by the remote borrowers, the library established 7 days period and 2 videos limit. Relative balance of print to non-print should be about 8-12 percent – currently the Albert Lea library it is almost 21 percent. Is the library in danger of turning into video rental place? |
| Quote | | Video recordings per capita in enhanced level 34,750 x 0.12 = 4,170. The Albert Lea library has almost twice that number of videos now. |
This was in 1996--pre-DVD--we have more videos than most libraries. It appears that our local library users are more interested in watching movies than reading books--confirms what one of the posters on this forum observed in an informal survey.| Quote | | From 1996 report--Currently there are nine computer stations (not carrels) in the adult area and five in children’s – some are obsolete dumb terminals (PAC) which will be removed shortly. All computers are heavily used and patrons are timed to 30 minutes use per visit. In 2001 Internet computer stations were used 19,382 times and in 2002 27,289 times. There is no word-processing software loaded and all computers have filters installed. There is a networked printer for patrons use. Children’s computers are preloaded with children’s games and there are CD-ROMs that can be checked out or used on the premises. |
Should we provide free internet to patrons? Is this a community function?
Take the time to zoom in on the questions that were asked about the relative merits of each site. As pollsters have proved, "You can get the answer you want if you ask the question in the right way". The questions don't seem to be weighted--that is, "Proximity to office space" is as important as "available parking". I would think the questions should be weighted--are they?
While the report would have the reader believe there is a clear winner, the top 3 candidates are easily within the "margin of error" (as pollsters say)--at 74.78% for the Arends building, 75.10% percent for the existing building, and 81% for the "annointed" site--insignificant differences, especially considering the questions asked.
I didn't see the workup on how they figured the cost of the project--does anyone know if that is available? Did they consider moving ALL offices out of City Hall? Just the Fire Department?
I'm not saying that the conclusion isn't correct, only that I'd like more information about the survey. I'd LIKE to support library expansion. Please convince me.
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