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HK's ? Awfully fine firearm, had one at one time, very expensive. So Glocks, Sigs and S&W's are not good enough for our gov. Employees anymore?

Federal just got done about a year ago revamping about 200k square feet in property they just aquired for a dist. ctr. This also freed up similar space for inceased production.

I don't know anything whatsoever about guns. I got a BB gun from the Easter Bunny when I was in 6th grade. I would line up cans, make my own little targets, set up a big line of clothes pins on the clothes line to shoot at. A year or two later I was in the front yard setting up some cans and noticed a squirrel in the tree. The thought came into my head that I could be a hunter. Shot it, it fell out of the tree, I ran over all excited, saw it shivering all little and scared and hurt, and I started bawling hysterically. My father runs out of the house thinking I had shot my eye out or something, sees the squirrel and tells me I have to finish it. I begged him to take it to a vet, he said no. Told me again I had to finish it. I begged him to do it, he said no, that I had to do it myself. - Meanie. I don't know if I actually did, I was crying so hard I couldn't see anything, but I shot, handed him the gun and never touched it, or any other gun again.
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Yeah, so I know nothing about guns. Is it unusual for them to be using HK's?


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The way this GOV. is being run, HILTER could do just as good this IDIOT in the W/H reminds me of him. :rofl:  :rofl:
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HK's ? Awfully fine firearm, had one at one time, very expensive. So Glocks, Sigs and S&W's are not good enough for our gov. Employees anymore?

Federal just got done about a year ago revamping about 200k square feet in property they just aquired for a dist. ctr. This also freed up similar space for inceased production.

I don't know anything whatsoever about guns. I got a BB gun from the Easter Bunny when I was in 6th grade. I would line up cans, make my own little targets, set up a big line of clothes pins on the clothes line to shoot at. A year or two later I was in the front yard setting up some cans and noticed a squirrel in the tree. The thought came into my head that I could be a hunter. Shot it, it fell out of the tree, I ran over all excited, saw it shivering all little and scared and hurt, and I started bawling hysterically. My father runs out of the house thinking I had shot my eye out or something, sees the squirrel and tells me I have to finish it. I begged him to take it to a vet, he said no. Told me again I had to finish it. I begged him to do it, he said no, that I had to do it myself. - Meanie. I don't know if I actually did, I was crying so hard I couldn't see anything, but I shot, handed him the gun and never touched it, or any other gun again.
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Yeah, so I know nothing about guns. Is it unusual for them to be using HK's?

No Roz, you're not a wuss, just human.

I think some of special forces over the years have used HK but as far as humdrum DHS? Social Security? Probably some nice lobbying from the importer or the kraits themselves.


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Yeah, the DHS bought over one and a half billion bullets to save by buying in bulk.

Yeah, they needed them for training.  From the Huffington link
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Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga . The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.
 Wow, that's a lot of rounds for just one facility.  Just when the military is being forced to cut back readiness training because of the sequester.  :dunno:

Maybe they need all that ammo for the zombie apocalypse?  :rofl:


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No Roz, you're not a wuss, just human.

Ditto.

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I think some of special forces over the years have used HK but as far as humdrum DHS? Social Security? Probably some nice lobbying from the importer or the kraits themselves.

When I had heard about the first big contract for hollow point bullets, I checked into them. I don't understand why that powerful and damaging ammo is necessary.

And some people say that cheaper regular bullets are used for training, others say the hollow points are used. So which is it.  :dunno:

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Wow, that's a lot of rounds for just one facility.  Just when the military is being forced to cut back readiness training because of the sequester.  


I always just figured that when different agencies train, they provide their own ammunition. Maybe these big places supply them and different agencies purchase while there? When Albert Lea police held a couple day training camp for assault weapons awhile back I wonder if they supplied the ammo or if the other police that showed up for it brought their own. Maybe Dan Belshan can fill that in for us.

MADDOG, thanks for that zombie link! I can't wait to show my oldest daughter. I go next door to her house every Sunday and we watch The Walking Dead together. Big fans lol. We've been working on a small food/supply stash just in case anything is to happen. -We jokingly call it our "Zombie Apocalypse Stash".
After seeing how people suffered after Katrina and Sandy it's a good idea to have a stash to see your family through for awhile just in case some sort of disaster hits.
Did you see the story about Homeland Security doing a zombie apocalypse drill?- Everyone is a zombie fan nowadays!


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Maybe they need all that ammo for the zombie apocalypse?  :rofl:

Just occurred to me. Maybe that's why the bullets are such powerful hollow-points!

Just kidding, just kidding. Calm down people.

Everyone knows regular plain ole bullets work quite well on zombies.  :D


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Did you see the story about Homeland Security doing a zombie apocalypse drill?- Everyone is a zombie fan nowadays!

It goes a little farther than that.  The UASI (Urban Area Security Intitiative) has received billions of dollars since the creation of the DHS.  Now you know where the MRAPs are going.  Anyway, Senator Dr. Tom Coburn released an oversight report, “Safety at Any Price: Assessing the Impact of Homeland Security Spending in U.S. Cities" requesting the Senate look into loose spending habits of the DHS.

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One notable training-related event that was deemed an allowable expense by DHS was the HALO Counter-Terrorism Summit 2012. Held at the Paradise Point Resort & Spa on an island
outside San Diego, the 5-day summit was deemed an allowable expense by DHS, permitting first responders to use grant funds for the $1,000 entrance fee. Event organizers described the location for the training event as an island paradise: “the exotic beauty and lush grandeur of this unique island setting that creates a perfect backdrop for the HALO Counter-Terrorism Summit.  This luxury resort features over 460 guestrooms, five pools, three fantastic restaurants overlooking the bay, a world-class spa and state-of-the-art fitness center. Paradise awaits…”

The marquee event over the summit, however, was its highly-promoted “zombie apocalypse” demonstration.
Strategic Operations, a tactical training firm, was hired to put on a “zombie-driven show” designed to simulate a real-life terrorism event.  The firm performed two shows on
Halloween, which featured 40 actors dressed as zombies getting gunned down by a military tactical unit. Conference attendees were invited to watch the shows as part of their education in emergency response training. Barker explained
that, “the idea is to challenge authorities as they respond to extreme medical situations where people become crazed and violent, creating widespread fear and disorder.

According to the firm’s public relations manager, the exercise was brought about “utilizing Hollywood magic,” and setup in a “parking lot-sized movie set [with] state-of the-art structures, pyrotechnic battlefield effects, medical special effects, vehicles and blank-firing weapons.” Barker added, however, “"This is a very real exercise, this is not some type of big costume party.”


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Wow, I didn't know they went to that big of an extravagance for the drill. Some reports have said that a sponsor paid for the whole thing, other reports say that each officer paid a fee and that's how it was paid for, still other reports say taxpayer money was used. So which is it for real? Why is it so freakin hard to find out the truth about almost everything.

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Safety at Any Price: Assessing the Impact of Homeland Security Spending in U.S. Cities by Sen. Coburn.  You'll find this item on pages 24-25

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