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Post Number: 51
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SimpleLife
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,4:57 pm |
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(Grinning_Dragon @ Dec. 17 2012,3:46 pm)
QUOTE (SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,7:55 am)
QUOTE You're an idiot. Nobody but the fringe wants to get rid of the guns. Fringe, like the tea party; nobody pays them any attention. The people who are looking for an actual solution want mental health screenings (for the PEOPLE), registrations (for the PEOPLE), buy-back programs (for the PEOPLE), gun training (for the PEOPLE), and bans on assault weapons. But sure, keep spouting "guns don't kill people, people do!" like it's an original idea. Sure, lets turn a Right into a privilege. After all we peons must prostrate ourselves before the alter of govt to gain permission to exercise an inalienable Right. I think we should require background checks and psych evaluations before someone can post online, until then NO 1st Amendment for you. Gun buy back programs are a joke, and are nothing more than feel good do nothing programs, please cite one example of these types of taxpayer wasted money programs has done anything to reduce crime? So scrap the gun buy-back. That still leaves screenings, registrations, mandatory trainings. And that's just what a civilian non-gun-owner can come up with off the top of her head. Are you really saying that there's not one single thing the US could do better?
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Post Number: 52
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,5:04 pm |
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(SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,4:57 pm)
QUOTE (Grinning_Dragon @ Dec. 17 2012,3:46 pm)
QUOTE (SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,7:55 am)
QUOTE You're an idiot. Nobody but the fringe wants to get rid of the guns. Fringe, like the tea party; nobody pays them any attention. The people who are looking for an actual solution want mental health screenings (for the PEOPLE), registrations (for the PEOPLE), buy-back programs (for the PEOPLE), gun training (for the PEOPLE), and bans on assault weapons. But sure, keep spouting "guns don't kill people, people do!" like it's an original idea. Sure, lets turn a Right into a privilege. After all we peons must prostrate ourselves before the alter of govt to gain permission to exercise an inalienable Right. I think we should require background checks and psych evaluations before someone can post online, until then NO 1st Amendment for you. Gun buy back programs are a joke, and are nothing more than feel good do nothing programs, please cite one example of these types of taxpayer wasted money programs has done anything to reduce crime? So scrap the gun buy-back. That still leaves screenings, registrations, mandatory trainings. And that's just what a civilian non-gun-owner can come up with off the top of her head. Are you really saying that there's not one single thing the US could do better? What you are doing is putting qualifiers on an inalienable Right, by doing that you have now changed a Right to a privilege. Natural / inalienable Rights are free from qualifiers, it is either a Right or it isn't.
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Post Number: 53
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Moparman
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,6:21 pm |
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(Liberal @ Dec. 17 2012,3:20 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE Mark Tambascio, another family friend, said he believed Lanza's mother, Nancy, had become increasingly concerned in the last few months about Lanza's emotional and behavioral issues.
ABC News Story
Not the kind of kid that I would let access firearms. Would you?
Nothing in that article says he was volatile, or dangerous? Do you think people shouldn't own guns if they have a kid that avoids eye contact, is an A/V nerd, or has a high tolerance for pain? Avoiding eye contact along with high pain thresholds are classic indicators of a mental illness.
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Post Number: 54
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Liberal
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,6:33 pm |
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So is being an A/V nerd but I doubt most people would get rid of their guns if they had a kid that was shy, an A/V nerd, or had a high pain tolerance.
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Post Number: 55
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Moparman
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,8:51 pm |
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No being an A/V nerd is not.
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012,11:25 am |
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So so it's coming out that the bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk.
How does that work???
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012,1:01 pm |
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If he didn't have the AR henmust have did all the damage with the Sig and the glock, those are black. I know glock only comes in black and don't think I've seen any other color on a Sig.
By the way, Joe Scarbourgh said this AM that nobody uses a Glock 10mm for defense.(guess I'll have to get rid of mine now, damn him) I also know that I shouldn't be watching the right wing tripe in the morning.
Clip/magazine, you made me giggle.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Dec. 18 2012,11:37 pm |
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It was a shotgun that was found in the trunk.
I wonder how things would have been different if he had been armed with a 6 round shotgun instead? He would have had to reload 6-7 times with the shotgun and there might have been a chance to stop him or for kids to escape, but if he would have used buckshot I'd think he could have killed multiple people with each shot.
According to the Jay Carney the President would support closing the "gun show loophole" but I don't think I've ever heard that the loophole was a problem, and if you close the "gun show loophole" won't you have to also stop private sales without background checks?
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Posted on: Dec. 19 2012,12:04 am |
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^ Stopping private sales? Wouldn't that make all guns being registered mandatory? Wouldn't that be a big old can of worms.
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