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Expatriate 
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,2:37 pm |
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The guns were here thirty years ago, the nut jobs were here thirty years ago so what’s changed?
We now have antidepressants like Zoloft, Prozac etc. we’re feeding these kids like candy!
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,2:54 pm |
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^ My God! Something we agree on!
I'm feeling faint.
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,2:58 pm |
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(SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,1:58 pm)
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(Self-Banished @ Dec. 17 2012,1:24 pm)
QUOTE The term "well regulated" was referring to militia men having proper rifle, ball and powder.
Explain " the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
Please. Arms also apply to bombs and nuclear weapons. I'm assuming you have no problem infringing on those rights. And you actually answered your own question - rifle, ball, and powder. I believe there are no restrictions on those currently, and no plans to take them off the table.
They want to ban my rifle, tax my ammo and right after Oklahoma City, they wanted to put tag ants in my powder.
The rifle the patriots fought the British with were state of the art assault weapons for there time.
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Liberal
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,3:20 pm |
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Mark Tambascio, another family friend, said he believed Lanza's mother, Nancy, had become increasingly concerned in the last few months about Lanza's emotional and behavioral issues.
ABC News Story
Not the kind of kid that I would let access firearms. Would you?
Nothing in that article says he was volatile, or dangerous? Do you think people shouldn't own guns if they have a kid that avoids eye contact, is an A/V nerd, or has a high tolerance for pain?
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,3:35 pm |
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(SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,1:06 pm)
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(Self-Banished @ Dec. 17 2012,10:58 am)
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(SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,10:02 am)
QUOTE Assault weapons bans are only part of it. No one thing is going to fix the gun problem in this country. That's not even high up on my list of cares because if you're a responsible person with a shotgun you're more than likely going to be just as responsible with an AR-15. You have to figure out a way to keep them out of the hands of the mentally ill. Japan only allows shotguns only after getting a license including a background check, completion of safety course, passing a written and practical test, a psych test, and verifying that they have secure storage. They've had 11 gun homicides in the last year, compared to the +9,000 in the US. Their policy is on the extreme side and would die a painful death if anyone tried to enact it in the US, but Australia and the UK also passed huge gun reform after massacres in their countries with huge decreases in the numbers of gun deaths. In the US, what, you need to just apply for a gun license, and as long as you don't have a history of shooting people up or extremely violent behavior you can get one? Really? Are you one of those peoe that believe the 2nd amendment is about hunting? "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Explain to me how gun laws in the US are in any way well-regulated?
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Well regulated in this context means well trained or maintained.
The militia IS dependent upon the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, not the other way around, because obviously you cannot have a well armed militia sans firearms now can you.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,3:39 pm |
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(SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,1:58 pm)
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(Self-Banished @ Dec. 17 2012,1:24 pm)
QUOTE The term "well regulated" was referring to militia men having proper rifle, ball and powder.
Explain " the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
Please. Arms also apply to bombs and nuclear weapons. I'm assuming you have no problem infringing on those rights. And you actually answered your own question - rifle, ball, and powder. I believe there are no restrictions on those currently, and no plans to take them off the table.
Well to a point you are correct. In the context of arms that is defined in the 2nd Amendment, it is referring to all small arms that can be carried by a soldier.
Are you really that ignorant of firearms and terminology? Ball and powder is still used in describing today's modern ammunition.
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*SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS / MOLON LABE / Se Defendendo
memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,3:46 pm |
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(SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,7:55 am)
QUOTE You're an idiot. Nobody but the fringe wants to get rid of the guns. Fringe, like the tea party; nobody pays them any attention. The people who are looking for an actual solution want mental health screenings (for the PEOPLE), registrations (for the PEOPLE), buy-back programs (for the PEOPLE), gun training (for the PEOPLE), and bans on assault weapons. But sure, keep spouting "guns don't kill people, people do!" like it's an original idea.
Sure, lets turn a Right into a privilege. After all we peons must prostrate ourselves before the alter of govt to gain permission to exercise an inalienable Right. I think we should require background checks and psych evaluations before someone can post online, until then NO 1st Amendment for you.
Gun buy back programs are a joke, and are nothing more than feel good do nothing programs, please cite one example of these types of taxpayer wasted money programs has done anything to reduce crime?
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS...Patton
My Constitutional Rights trump your dead.
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,4:55 pm |
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(Liberal @ Dec. 17 2012,3:20 pm)
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Mark Tambascio, another family friend, said he believed Lanza's mother, Nancy, had become increasingly concerned in the last few months about Lanza's emotional and behavioral issues.
ABC News Story
Not the kind of kid that I would let access firearms. Would you?
Nothing in that article says he was volatile, or dangerous? Do you think people shouldn't own guns if they have a kid that avoids eye contact, is an A/V nerd, or has a high tolerance for pain?
Okay. You know what? You're right. No cause for alarm. I'm sure Mom couldn't have seen this coming.
Happy now?
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