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SimpleLife
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,9:27 am |
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(Santorini @ Dec. 17 2012,9:24 am)
QUOTE (SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,7:55 am)
QUOTE (pepi-lapew @ Dec. 17 2012,7:41 am)
QUOTE This will really bring out the ANTI gun nuts. GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE DO!!! But left wingers dont care they want everyone gun free, except the criminals. You're an idiot. Nobody but the fringe wants to get rid of the guns. Fringe, like the tea party; nobody pays them any attention. The people who are looking for an actual solution want mental health screenings (for the PEOPLE), registrations (for the PEOPLE), buy-back programs (for the PEOPLE), gun training (for the PEOPLE), and bans on assault weapons. But sure, keep spouting "guns don't kill people, people do!" like it's an original idea. Pepi, actually the headline I read said: Feinstein leads Democratic Senators in call to renew gun debate--vows legislation. Didnt see anything from the fringe you are talking about! Besides this horrific incident has nothing to do with politics...leave it alone. Look what happened in China that same morning! A knife wielding guy attacks 23 primary school students after first assaulting an adult. Fortunately no one was killed. BUT...the point is it doesnt matter if its guns or knives or an idiot driving a bus into a school...if someone wants to do it they will find a way. You are right though about the mental health issue. But thats a slippery slope too. What yard stick do we use to measure that with? I like the way you gloss over the fact that NOBODY WAS KILLED IN THE CHINA ATTACK. 22 injuries versus 26 deaths. You don't think that's significant?
-------------- Won't somebody please think of the children!
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,9:45 am |
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Pearl Miss. 1997
Pudukah Ky 1997
Jonesboro Ark. 1998
Springfield Ore.1998
And the list goes on, assault weapons ban did nothing to stop these.
-------------- Remember boys and girls,
Don’t be a Dick …
Or a “Wayne”
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SimpleLife
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,10:02 am |
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Assault weapons bans are only part of it. No one thing is going to fix the gun problem in this country. That's not even high up on my list of cares because if you're a responsible person with a shotgun you're more than likely going to be just as responsible with an AR-15. You have to figure out a way to keep them out of the hands of the mentally ill. Japan only allows shotguns only after getting a license including a background check, completion of safety course, passing a written and practical test, a psych test, and verifying that they have secure storage. They've had 11 gun homicides in the last year, compared to the +9,000 in the US. Their policy is on the extreme side and would die a painful death if anyone tried to enact it in the US, but Australia and the UK also passed huge gun reform after massacres in their countries with huge decreases in the numbers of gun deaths. In the US, what, you need to just apply for a gun license, and as long as you don't have a history of shooting people up or extremely violent behavior you can get one? Really?
-------------- Won't somebody please think of the children!
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Santorini
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,10:33 am |
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(SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,9:27 am)
QUOTE (Santorini @ Dec. 17 2012,9:24 am)
QUOTE (SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,7:55 am)
QUOTE (pepi-lapew @ Dec. 17 2012,7:41 am)
QUOTE This will really bring out the ANTI gun nuts. GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE DO!!! But left wingers dont care they want everyone gun free, except the criminals. You're an idiot. Nobody but the fringe wants to get rid of the guns. Fringe, like the tea party; nobody pays them any attention. The people who are looking for an actual solution want mental health screenings (for the PEOPLE), registrations (for the PEOPLE), buy-back programs (for the PEOPLE), gun training (for the PEOPLE), and bans on assault weapons. But sure, keep spouting "guns don't kill people, people do!" like it's an original idea. Simple, actually the headline I read said: Feinstein leads Democratic Senators in call to renew gun debate--vows legislation. Didnt see anything from the fringe you are talking about! Besides this horrific incident has nothing to do with politics...leave it alone. Look what happened in China that same morning! A knife wielding guy attacks 23 primary school students after first assaulting an adult. Fortunately no one was killed. BUT...the point is it doesnt matter if its guns or knives or an idiot driving a bus into a school...if someone wants to do it they will find a way. You are right though about the mental health issue. But thats a slippery slope too. What yard stick do we use to measure that with? I like the way you gloss over the fact that NOBODY WAS KILLED IN THE CHINA ATTACK. 22 injuries versus 26 deaths. You don't think that's significant? So its the numbers that matter to you? 7 children stabbed to death..8 children and 2 adults hacked to death in kindergarten...Yea, Simple, this time no one was killed in China!
You missed the point though. If someone wants to perpetrate this kind of evil they are going to find a way.
-------------- "Things turn out best for those who make the best of the way things turned out." Jack Buck
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SimpleLife
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Posted on: Dec. 17 2012,10:44 am |
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(Santorini @ Dec. 17 2012,10:33 am)
QUOTE (SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,9:27 am)
QUOTE (Santorini @ Dec. 17 2012,9:24 am)
QUOTE (SimpleLife @ Dec. 17 2012,7:55 am)
QUOTE (pepi-lapew @ Dec. 17 2012,7:41 am)
QUOTE This will really bring out the ANTI gun nuts. GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE DO!!! But left wingers dont care they want everyone gun free, except the criminals. You're an idiot. Nobody but the fringe wants to get rid of the guns. Fringe, like the tea party; nobody pays them any attention. The people who are looking for an actual solution want mental health screenings (for the PEOPLE), registrations (for the PEOPLE), buy-back programs (for the PEOPLE), gun training (for the PEOPLE), and bans on assault weapons. But sure, keep spouting "guns don't kill people, people do!" like it's an original idea. Pepi, actually the headline I read said: Feinstein leads Democratic Senators in call to renew gun debate--vows legislation. Didnt see anything from the fringe you are talking about! Besides this horrific incident has nothing to do with politics...leave it alone. Look what happened in China that same morning! A knife wielding guy attacks 23 primary school students after first assaulting an adult. Fortunately no one was killed. BUT...the point is it doesnt matter if its guns or knives or an idiot driving a bus into a school...if someone wants to do it they will find a way. You are right though about the mental health issue. But thats a slippery slope too. What yard stick do we use to measure that with? I like the way you gloss over the fact that NOBODY WAS KILLED IN THE CHINA ATTACK. 22 injuries versus 26 deaths. You don't think that's significant? So its the numbers that matter to you? 7 children stapped to death..8 children and 2 adults hacked to death in kindergarten...Yea, Pepi this time no one was killed in China! You missed the point though. If someone wants to perpetrate this kind of evil they are going to find a way. But you can't kill 26 people in minutes with a knife. Or a hammer. Or a machete. Or whatever other weapon people are throwing around as an example.
-------------- Won't somebody please think of the children!
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