Search Members Help

» Welcome Guest
[ Log In :: Register ]

1 members are viewing this topic
>Guest

Page 1 of 1212345>>

[ Track This Topic :: Email This Topic :: Print this topic ]

reply to topic new topic new poll
Topic: Militarized Police, Gone Too Far< Next Oldest | Next Newest >
 Post Number: 1
MADDOG Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Moderator
Posts: 7821
Joined: Aug. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,10:56 am  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

I've been watching the lengthy protests going on in Ferguson, Missouri several evenings on the news.  Last night I had on MSNBC, CNN, Fox and even Aljazeera TV seeing some of the different perspectives.  One thing that has jumped out and definitely bothered me is the actions and show of force of the police.  Whether it was actual force or just plain intimidation, I was appalled at where we have allowed some of this to go.

Why police are showing force wearing military style clothing, carrying military style weapons (M4 short barrel 7.62 AR15s sporting Leupold scopes),20 and 30 round magazine clips, Kevlar helmuts, night vision equipment, Ka-Bar military knives and gas masks?  Is it a show of force arriving in MRAPs and Bearcat armored personnel carriers?

Where have we gone from and oath to protect and serve to the use of intimidation and excessive force?  Has this method helped protect us or create more hostility towards laws and their enforcement?

I have friends and acquaintances in law enforcement so I'm not against LEOs and wanting them to be safe.  when I see all the armament and militarized force holding lines against protesters, I wonder if these actions only polarize the situation in Ferguson?  I know if I showed up at a protest rally carrying a sign and they police showed up in flack jackets carrying assault style weapons and sporting tear gas launchers, it would set me off.

Maybe, just maybe, the LEO units are making it way more worse because of how they are treating this.  Reminds me of Kent State.  It was wrong then and it still is.


Attached Image
Attached Image

--------------
Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 2
twingroves Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 596
Joined: Oct. 2007
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,11:44 am Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

when you go into battle you go in to win
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 3
Self-Banished Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 9034
Joined: Feb. 2006
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,1:33 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Talk about making potholes

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0#bmb=1


--------------
"Life's tough Buttercup". Self Banished

Elections have consequences
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 4
Rosalind_Swenson Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 1518
Joined: May 2011
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,2:59 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(twingroves @ Aug. 19 2014,11:44 am)
QUOTE
when you go into battle you go in to win

It's not a freakin battle. This is America for godsake, not Iraq, Afghanistan or any other country we feel the need to invade, spread democracy and keep the peace. We the people have rights. At least we are supposed to. Things are getting out of control bigtime in this country. And people like YOU, are the reason it's happening so quickly.

I have a lot of respect for most police officers and I too want them to be safe, but the militarization of our officers has gone too far. Other government agencies have also gone way too far.

The police virtually did NOTHING when looting was going on in Ferguson. Protesters and store owners were the only ones trying to stop looting the day after the shooting. But the police roll out those big military vehicles, wearing camoflauge and aiming machine guns at peaceful protesters. No wonder things are getting so out of hand down there. MADDOG, you are not the only person who would feel the way you do about how the police acted. I agree with you that it has exacerbated the situation. Reporters being arrested, tear gas and rubber bullets fired at them?

Any of this seem a bit over the top to you? And how much attention has the big national media given to any of these things? Not much.

DHS, SWAT, ICE, helicopters to raid home for suspected child porn.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news...41.html

Another raid for child porn.

http://fox2now.com/2014/07/10/federal-agents-swarm-livingston-ill/

I understand child pornography is a horrible disgusting thing, but this is severe overkill in my opinion. How were things like this handled in the past? Not like this.

This is what happened to a family in Las Vegas when the man didn't want to let police take over his home for surveillance on his neighbor. His parents who also live in the nieghborhood were also brought into the nightmare and abused.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news...-agains

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/07/03/59061.htm


http://billmoyers.com/2014...-forces


--------------
And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 5
MADDOG Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Moderator
Posts: 7821
Joined: Aug. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,4:15 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

QUOTE
The complaint continues: "Defendant Officer David Cawthorn outlined the defendants' plan in his official report: 'It was determined to move to 367 Evening Side and attempt to contact Mitchell. If Mitchell answered the door he would be asked to leave. If he refused to leave he would be arrested for Obstructing a Police Officer. If Mitchell refused to answer the door, force entry would be made and Mitchell would be arrested.'"
    At a few minutes before noon, at least five defendant officers "arrayed themselves in front of plaintiff Anthony Mitchell's house and prepared to execute their plan," the complaint states.
    It continues: "The officers banged forcefully on the door and loudly commanded Anthony Mitchell to open the door to his residence.
    "Surprised and perturbed, plaintiff Anthony Mitchell immediately called his mother (plaintiff Linda Mitchell) on the phone, exclaiming to her that the police were beating on his front door.
    "Seconds later, officers, including Officer Rockwell, smashed open plaintiff Anthony Mitchell's front door with a metal ram as plaintiff stood in his living room.
    "As plaintiff Anthony Mitchell stood in shock, the officers aimed their weapons at Anthony Mitchell and shouted obscenities at him and ordered him to lie down on the floor.
    "Fearing for his life, plaintiff Anthony Mitchell dropped his phone and prostrated himself onto the floor of his living room, covering his face and hands.
    "Addressing plaintiff as 'ass', officers, including Officer Snyder, shouted conflicting orders at Anthony Mitchell, commanding him to both shut off his phone, which was on the floor in front of his head, and simultaneously commanding him to 'crawl' toward the officers.
    "Confused and terrified, plaintiff Anthony Mitchell remained curled on the floor of his living room, with his hands over his face, and made no movement.
    "Although plaintiff Anthony Mitchell was lying motionless on the ground and posed no threat, officers, including Officer David Cawthorn, then fired multiple 'pepperball' rounds at plaintiff as he lay defenseless on the floor of his living room. Anthony Mitchell was struck at least three times by shots fired from close range, injuring him and causing him severe pain." (Parentheses in complaint.)
    Officers then arrested him for obstructing a police officer, searched the house and moved furniture without his permission and set up a place in his home for a lookout, Mitchell says in the complaint.
    He says they also hurt his pet dog for no reason whatsoever: "Plaintiff Anthony Mitchell's pet, a female dog named 'Sam,' was cowering in the corner when officers smashed through the front door. Although the terrified animal posed no threat to officers, they gratuitously shot it with one or more pepperball rounds. The panicked animal howled in fear and pain and fled from the residence. Sam was subsequently left trapped outside in a fenced alcove without access to water, food, or shelter from the sun for much of the day, while temperatures outside soared to over 100 degrees Fahrenheit."
    Anthony and his parents live in separate houses, close to one another on the same street. He claims that police treated his parents the same way.


Don't even ask me what I think on how these "lower than life" badges should have done to them.


--------------
Actually my wife is especially happy when my google check arrives each month. Thanks to douchbags like you, I get paid just for getting you worked up. -Liberal
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 6
Self-Banished Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 9034
Joined: Feb. 2006
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,4:48 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

There's this

http://www.freep.com/interac...rderBy=


--------------
"Life's tough Buttercup". Self Banished

Elections have consequences
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 7
Self-Banished Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 9034
Joined: Feb. 2006
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,4:57 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE


(Rosalind_Swenson @ Aug. 19 2014,2:59 pm)
QUOTE
It's not a freakin battle.

Sadly Roz, it is a battle

Ferguson is just the soup d'jour at the moment, LA, Chicago, etc. are turning into war zones. Gangs like MS13 are better equipped than some police depts.


--------------
"Life's tough Buttercup". Self Banished

Elections have consequences
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 8
Liberal Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Moderator
Posts: 10940
Joined: Aug. 2003
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,4:57 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Peaceful protesters?

Attached Image
Attached Image

--------------
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"


The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info WEB 
 Post Number: 9
grassman Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 3858
Joined: Mar. 2006
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,5:53 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

The bottom line is, they have allowed anyone from every corner come into this country. The war area is here. They have arrived. Now how do you combat the possible? SHOW OF CAPABILITY. Our open immigration has bit us in the a$$.

--------------
git er done!
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
 Post Number: 10
Rosalind_Swenson Search for posts by this member.

Avatar



Group: Members
Posts: 1518
Joined: May 2011
PostIcon Posted on: Aug. 19 2014,6:02 pm Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE


(Liberal @ Aug. 19 2014,4:57 pm)
QUOTE
Peaceful protesters?

Looter: a criminal who takes property belonging to someone else with the intention of keeping it or selling it.

Protester: A person who publicly demonstrates strong objection to something; a demonstrator.

See LIbERal? There is a difference. And probably why so many protesters have been protecting businesses and trying to stop looters.


--------------
And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
Offline
Top of Page Profile Contact Info 
114 replies since Aug. 19 2014,10:56 am < Next Oldest | Next Newest >

[ Track This Topic :: Email This Topic :: Print this topic ]


Page 1 of 1212345>>
reply to topic new topic new poll

» Quick Reply Militarized Police
iB Code Buttons
You are posting as:

Do you wish to enable your signature for this post?
Do you wish to enable emoticons for this post?
Track this topic
View All Emoticons
View iB Code
Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon Emoticon