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Rosalind_Swenson 
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2012,10:25 am |
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I know I usually just rant about the "evil" government, but here's another big problem that people should be thinking about. Now I don't care what anyone thinks about Dennis Kucinich politically. I don't care if he's some sort of "radical left-wing socialist" or any other type of label that the other side likes to use. Please just listen to what he says, and make up your own mind about the information.
This is from a Congressional Briefing on ending Nuclear Power held last month. If you are able to dispute the information these people give, go ahead. At least listen to the information and THINK about things.
In the first video Kucinich talks about how some of our nuclear power plants are literally falling apart. He describes how and the dangers of this. He tells about how the regulators have been covering it up and downplaying the dangers. He talks about the huge government funded expense of maintaining these plants.
In the second video, Mitsuhei Murata, Japan’s former Ambassador to Switzerland talks about how insane it was to build 54 nuclear power plants in Japan which has so many earthquakes and tsunamis, and that it was only greed and lack of ethics that did this. He tells how ridiculous nuclear power plants are when nobody has any idea (still) what to do with the waste. He says that the Fukishima incident is still a big danger. If even a small earthquake Unit 4 will collapse and will be a huge catastrophe for the world. And he says (I will paraphrase) humans as a whole, are mindless lazy greedy unethical idiots with no thought of the future and are running for the edge of a cliff as quickly as they can. Arjun Makhijani, world renowned nuclear expert compares costs of solar power in Germany and here. It costs twice as much here. He talks about the vast number of nuclear power plants being shut down world wide in different parts of the world. Shut down for different reasons. He tells how Germany did a sort of test recently with their solar power and during one work day they were able to meet 1/3 of their electricity needs, and the next day (Saturday) they were able to meet 1/2 of their electric needs. He explains common sense reasons why nuclear and fossil fuels are dangerous and heading nowhere, and that renewable energy avoidance is strictly political. Mariko Bender talks about the spreading of radiation from Fukishima (if you only get news from mainstream you won't know about this. If you only believe mainstream and no other sources you won't believe some of the things she says and will just put her in the "kook" category). She tells how the "official acceptable" limit of radiation has been increased by 20 times what it had been initially. She tells how the government and doctors tell people they are safe to stay in Fukishima and it is safe for babies and children even at 100X's the initial acceptable limits. She says how doctors and scientists outside of Fukishima say that children and pregnant women need to leave. She says the food in Fukishima is contaminated with radiation but they all have to eat it. She explains that abnormal thyroid growth was found in 43% of Fukishima children since the disaster.
Third video, Arnie Gundersen-big man in nuclear power for most of his life, turned anti-nuclear power explains how full of crap the NRC is and points out different obvious lies they have told. He explains how much keeping nuclear going costs taxpayers. His speech is way too short for some reason. Just google and see some of the things he has been trying to bring attention to with several plants in the US. Paul Gunter- Nuclear watchdog who has publicly busted some major badness in the nuclear power industry, he says how dangerous some of the reactors are and that even when they were built back in the 70's the government watchdog of atomic energy even voiced concerns and told the government and nuclear people that they were not safe. (The same flawed reactor he's talking about, the same one at Fukishima is also the one used in Monticello MN)
http://coalitionagainstnukes.org/ai1ec_e..._id=266
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So far I've only made it ten minutes into the third video, but I don't have time to finish right now. Maybe some of you want to watch all four when you have the time. I am not trying to scare people, I just want people to wake up to some very major problems we face. For our childrens' sakes.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2012,12:21 pm |
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As I've said before, Humanity's biggest problem is Humanity. And that problem will eventually solve itself.
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Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2012,12:44 pm |
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^ aren't you just a ray of sunshine.
I know the nuclear(nu-clee-er) problem with storage and the degradation of the plants is a major problem. We Americans just choose to "whistle past the graveyard" till something bad happens then blame it on the politician just happens to be in office at the time, don't think so? Try the I-35 bridge.
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2012,5:59 pm |
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^ and the Brits just reported global warming being over 16 years ago. 
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grassman
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2012,6:08 pm |
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Here's what we do see... we ship all of the wasted nuclear crap to Mars. We have to pollute the crap out of it anyway to make it inhabitable. Problem solved, send me a check.
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2012,9:42 pm |
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(Liberal @ Oct. 16 2012,5:20 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE
This is from a Congressional Briefing on ending Nuclear Power held last month. If you are able to dispute the information these people give, go ahead. At least listen to the information and THINK about things.
Why do you assume people don't know about this? Do you think we're all just too stupid to have read it, or just really gullible when it comes to the government? The world just had the warmest September on record and most sane people will tell you that burning fossil fuels contributes to climate change, and you want us to get rid of nuclear power plants?
What exactly did you read Liberal? You already "read" the videos? Maybe you found transcripts that I wasn't able to find.
QUOTE Why do you assume people don't know about this? Do you think we're all just too stupid to have read it, or just really gullible when it comes to the government?
I assumed nobody had watched the videos, since nobody was talking about it. Maybe some people don't think things like this are as important as the economy or which president lies best, but I figured maybe some might be interested in this IF they already hadn't watched them. I could learn to try to argue about the economy and right vs. left so I can fit in better, but my heart just isn't in it.
QUOTE The world just had the warmest September on record and most sane people will tell you that burning fossil fuels contributes to climate change, and you want us to get rid of nuclear power plants?
What exactly did you read? Not one person talked about relying on fossil fuels. They talked about alternative renewables. Wind, solar, anything that will help right now and in the future to make the world and people, cleaner, safer and healthier. They also explained how much cheaper it is than fossil and nuclear.
Oh, can't go to renewables, it's a scam. Costs too much. Won't supply me personally with enough electricity. Will ruin the economy. blahblahblahbittyblah.
Yes, some very sane people DO want to get rid of nuclear power plants, and if you watched the videos you would understand why.
Ya know, I heard that once upon a time, people used to sacrifice personal luxuries for the greater good. I heard people used to do crazyyyy things like ration, and sometimes do completely without. Heaven forbid anyone should even have to think about cutting down on power or fuel for awhile.
And Liberal, I really am sorry if I come across as if I think I am smarter or better than you or anyone else here. I definitely don't think I am. I am terrified of what things will be like for my kids and grandkids. Literally terrified. And I know that things have to change. And like SB said about American's whistling past the graveyard, I think most all of us know that we are in trouble, we just don't want to face it. Many things have to change in very big ways, and I am desperate that changes do happen. And the only way things will change, is if the majority of people realize it and are willing to help create those changes.
If people in the forum want me to shut the hell up and leave the forum I will. I'll go be desperate and pathetic somewhere else. Do a forum poll or ask people in private message.
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Funkadelic Zombie Hunter
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Posted on: Oct. 16 2012,10:43 pm |
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I don't want you to go anywhere we may not agree but I am an insensitive S.O.B. I at least read the posts I am not as conspiratorial as you but you do make a few good points.
I learned along time ago don't trust what is being shoveled because the mushroom principal is applied "you will be kept in the dark and feed manure" it's for your own good.
Some people are like sheep they need to be led around by a sheppard and are incapable of independent thought.
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The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
Nancy Pelosi..."dissent the highest form of patriotism"
Obama LIED people DIED
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grassman
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Posted on: Oct. 17 2012,2:52 am |
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It is a scam to keep renewable energy down. I belong to a electric co-op. We get a monthly newsletter. One time they say that wind energy is not cost effective because the wind blows the most during daytime and usage is lower at that time. In a later letter they wrote that the wind blows during the night when usage is down. What is it? Smoke and mirrors to keep us on the ever dangling hook. Germany is WAY ahead of us.
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