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busybee 
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Posted on: Oct. 21 2012,2:40 am |
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I could write something up and cite references too...that doesn't mean it's the truth and nothing but the truth, especially if you leave it up to others to figure out if it is or isn't...
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Oct. 21 2012,3:21 am |
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(Liberal @ Oct. 21 2012,1:51 am)
QUOTE So why not post the links to these "mainstream news and government websites"?
I would rather people look up things for themselves sometimes. I think most people do look up what other people say. Usually people who look up info for themselves find out a lot of other things as well. But, since it must be too difficult for you:
Vermont Yankee problems:
two executives, asked by state regulators if tritium could leak from buried pipes as it had at other other plants, said it had no such pipes. In fact, an underground pipe was leaking tritium. Vermont Yankee has also had assorted mechanical problems over the years.
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011...rs-fuel
August 2007, a three story tall cooling tower at the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant collapsed, goring a massive hole in the center of the structure and spewing asbestos, rotting wood, plastic panels, and thousands of gallons of water onto the bank of the Connecticut river. It later emerged that several employees had expressed concerns about the tower, and that, in the days before the collapse, others heard odd noises from within the structure. (This one gives a bigger list of problems)
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroo...a8fccd3
Vermont Senate vote to close Vermont Yankee:
MONTPELIER, Vt. — In an unusual state foray into nuclear regulation, the Vermont Senate voted 26 to 4 Wednesday to block operation of the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant after 2012, citing radioactive leaks, misstatements in testimony by plant officials and
http://www.nytimes.com/2010...ll&_r=0
WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Thursday blocked Vermont from forcing the Vermont Yankee nuclear reactor to shut down when its license expires in March, saying that the state is trying to regulate nuclear safety, which only the federal government can do.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012...es.html
Vermont Yankee has been in commercial operation since 1972 and has had a license extension granted by the NRC to 2032.
http://www.entergy-nuclear.com/plant_information/vermont_yankee.aspx
Problems with storing waste with Monticello and Prairie Island plants:
http://www.leg.state.mn.us/lrl/issues/issues.aspx?issue=prairieisland
Federal officials are asking several nuclear power plants to check their facilities after a piece of equipment broke down at a power plant in central Minnesota. The plant, located northwest of the Twin Cites in Monticello, is still shut down.
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display...lloshut
Authorities say a decrease in coolant levels for one of the plant's nuclear reactors indicated there may have be a leak.
http://kaaltv.com/article/stories/S2526783.shtml?cat=10219
Gasket leak at Monticello, back up generator failed at Prairie Island:
http://monticellotimes.com/2012...tuesday
All 500 gallons of chlorine bleach in a tank escaped early Thursday at the Prairie Island nuclear plant in Red Wing, prompting an emergency response from Xcel Energy and delaying classes in two school districts.
http://www.startribune.com/local/136729298.html?refer=y
RED WING — The failure of two backup generators at the Prairie Island nuclear plant Tuesday has revived safety worries among the plant's neighbors, although regulators say the plant is safe.
http://postbulletin.com/news/stories/display.php?id=1505422
So far, 66 of 104 reactors have been granted license renewals. Most of the 20-year extensions have been granted with scant public attention. And the NRC has yet to reject a single application to extend an original license.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id...d-spans
Xcel Energy filed a license renewal application with the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), seeking a 20-year license renewal for its Monticello facility. The single reactor at the Monticello plant was licensed until 2010. On November 8, 2006, the NRC granted the renewal, extending Monticello's operating license until September 8, 2030. On April 15, 2008, Xcel Energy submitted an application to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission seeking 20 year license extensions for Prairie Island's two reactors. The current licenses expired in 2013 and 2014. The NRC issued a final EIS related to the license extension in May 2011 and on June 27, 2011 the NRC renewed the operating licenses of both Prairie Island reactors. Reactor 1 is now licensed to operate until 2033 and reactor 2 until 2034.
http://www.leg.state.mn.us/lrl/issues/issues.aspx?issue=prairieisland
Only two U.S. nuclear sites are in compliance with federal fire regulations. How confident can we be that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has things firmly in hand?
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroo...a8fccd3
The federal government promised almost 30 years ago to find a place to bury nuclear waste from power plants. It hasn't. So the waste is piling up at power plants around the country.
Now a federal court says the government must prove that this temporary solution is truly safe. The decision could help break the nuclear-waste logjam.
Most people agree that used nuclear fuel, which is highly radioactive, needs to be disposed of forever. But that's proving easier said than done.
http://www.npr.org/2012...-logjam
Nuclear power was by far the dumbest thing we have ever come up with.
Do you honestly think there is any way to safely store all of this waste for a couple hundred thousand years?
Way to plan for the future.
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Government is too big and too important to be left to the politicians. Chester Bowles.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.”
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busybee
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Posted on: Oct. 21 2012,4:10 am |
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Ok...what do you want U.S. Citizens to do about your fears and concerns???
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Grinning_Dragon
rideo draconigena
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Posted on: Oct. 22 2012,9:00 pm |
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So.. I hear that the Reich-Stag er. DHS, has had a graduated class of 321 youths that will be used as FEMA's standing army per se. Does this country need another govt jackbooted armed morons? Isn't the national guard used for this? What is going to happen when the guard and these new brown shirts, start having a power struggle, during a crisis?
What would a disaster relief agency like FEMA need with 2,500 brand new GLS armored fighting vehicles? According to the agency’s own mandate, as well as President Obama’s recent Executive Order, the answer is ‘population control’ during a time of Martial Law.
They’re labeled with the usual backward American flag and the title, ‘Homeland Security’. Below that and the DHS logo, it also reads, ‘Immigration & Customs Enforcement’. Joining those markings, the black vehicles with white lettering also display ‘POLICE/RESCUE’ on one side and ‘Special Response Team’ on the other.
This country is hemorrhaging money, and they choose to spend it on BS such as this. We do not need fema nor dhs nor tsa. Getting rid of these wastes of dept. would save quite a few billion a year.
Guess we can all thank bush for this decline into a police state and otardo for continuing it.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS....Patton
*Ut subsequens vires of Iugum , exsisto optimus si obama intereo ex a pectus pectoris tentatio
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012,3:02 am |
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^When the collective realizes how screwed it is, via its so-called leaders, well, that's what those are for - to insulate the screwers from the screwees.
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Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
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busybee
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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012,3:50 am |
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Grinning_Dragon
Posted on: Oct. 22 2012,9:00 pm
QUOTE So.. I hear that the Reich-Stag er. DHS, has had a graduated class of 321 youths that will be used as FEMA's standing army per se. Does this country need another govt jackbooted armed morons? Isn't the national guard used for this? What is going to happen when the guard and these new brown shirts, start having a power struggle, during a crisis?
What would a disaster relief agency like FEMA need with 2,500 brand new GLS armored fighting vehicles? According to the agency’s own mandate, as well as President Obama’s recent Executive Order, the answer is ‘population control’ during a time of Martial Law.
They’re labeled with the usual backward American flag and the title, ‘Homeland Security’. Below that and the DHS logo, it also reads, ‘Immigration & Customs Enforcement’. Joining those markings, the black vehicles with white lettering also display ‘POLICE/RESCUE’ on one side and ‘Special Response Team’ on the other.
Nothing all too special about any of this...it always boils down to someone's brainy idea that makes them a living at the expense of other U.S. citizen's who know it's not going to "fix" the problem anyway.
To me this has little to do with politics and more to do with the instilled belief system that U.S. Citizens can somehow "control" everything that happens in this country or doesn't...
[QUOTE]This country is hemorrhaging money, and they choose to spend it on BS such as this. We do not need fema nor dhs nor tsa. Getting rid of these wastes of dept. would save quite a few billion a year.
Guess we can all thank bush for this decline into a police state and otardo for continuing it.[QUOTE]
Don't you ever find it confusing that the U.S. Government gets to decide whether or not it's own citizens have any rights to be protected from it's own citizen's terrorism, yet spends billions of dollars automatically assuming the biggest problem is other countries terrorists that need to be "fixed" instead?
It's extremely hypocritical...and continues to be a problem that both political parties pursue...
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Grinning_Dragon
rideo draconigena
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Posted on: Oct. 23 2012,6:16 am |
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In all honesty, I didn't know anything about this until I over heard a group of Marines talking about this and making fun of it. They used a term in describing the graduates of dhs, and from what I gather it meant wanna be soldiers, they all laughed about it and called them other names and then wondered when the Marine Corps was gonna get some new toys that would be put to good use.
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memoria of cado frater ,Semper fidelis
*The object of war is NOT to DIE for YOUR Country, but to make the OTHER BASTARD DIE for HIS....Patton
*Ut subsequens vires of Iugum , exsisto optimus si obama intereo ex a pectus pectoris tentatio
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pepi-lapew
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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012,10:19 am |
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The marines can use the dhs army boys for cannon fodder to practice on. 
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Rosalind_Swenson
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Posted on: Oct. 24 2012,12:38 pm |
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Those are some freakin huge vehicles GD. Why on earth would they need that many of those trucks? And like you said, with the money problems of the country, they must think they have a valid reason.
Well said Botto.
I'm wondering about a couple of these partnerships between the US and other countries. If we can be called in to help partner countries with their problems, couldn't they also be called in to "help" our government out if there are problems? I'm thinking that would save the government the hassle of trying to force our military into going after American citizens.
he Partnership for Peace (PfP) is a programme of practical bilateral cooperation between individual Euro-Atlantic partner countries and NATO. It allows partners to build up an individual relationship with NATO, choosing their own priorities for cooperation.
Based on a commitment to the democratic principles that underpin the Alliance itself, the purpose of the Partnership for Peace is to increase stability, diminish threats to peace and build strengthened security relationships between individual Euro-Atlantic partners and NATO, as well as among partner countries.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_50349.htm
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The National Guard's 65-nation, 20-year-old State Partnership Program provides unique partnership capacity-building capabilities to combatant commanders and U.S. ambassadors through partnerships between U.S. states, territories and the District of Columbia and foreign countries.
The SPP supports U.S. national interests and security cooperation goals by engaging partner nations via military, socio-political and economic conduits at the local, state and national level.
http://www.nationalguard.mil/features/spp/default.aspx
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Does anyone know much about this "Garden Plot" thing? So far I haven't been able to find out much about it except from "kook" sites.
Air Force Garden Plot
4.1.1. The President is authorized by the Constitution
and laws of the United States to employ the Armed Forces
of the United States to suppress insurrections, rebellions,
and domestic violence under various conditions and circumstances.
Planning and preparedness by the Federal Government
and the Department of Defense for civil disturbances
are important due to the potential severity of the consequences
of such events for the Nation and the population.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/dod/d302512p.txt
Coast Guard Garden Plot:
1. PURPOSE. This manual instruction provides policy and guidance for the preparation and
execution of plans to support the Army in executing its Civil Disturbance Plan
(GARDEN PLOT) (reference (a)).
a. The department of the Army Civil Disturbance Plan (DA GARDEN PLOT), promulgated
in reference (a), is the governing publication for planning, deployment, employment, and
redeployment of federal military resources involved in countering domestic civil
disturbances. Coast Guard units may be placed within a Department of Defense (DOD)
task force under operational control of the designated task force commander in GARDEN
PLOT operations.
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2htm...ges=yes
First one is from the Air Force website. Second is from the Coast Guard website.
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