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The Davis-Besse Nuclear Plant in Ohio has had a ridiculous amount of very big problems.
In 2002, Davis-Besse's old nuclear reactor head
nearly burst. The lid was weakened by massive amounts of acid that had leaked from the reactor over several
years. The acid induced heavy corrosion on top of the head. Radioactive steam would have formed in a U.S.
nuclear containment vessel for the first time since the 1979 half-core meltdown of Three Mile Island Unit 2 in
Pennsylvania if Davis-Besse's lid had been breached. The only thing preventing that was a thin stainless steel
liner that had started to crack and bulge, records show.
Federal prosecutors later described the incident as one of the biggest cover-ups in U.S.
nuclear history. Two former Davis-Besse engineers were convicted of withholding information and put on
probation; the utility itself wound up paying a record $33.5 million in civil and criminal fines"; this represents the
"largest single fine ever proposed by the NRC."
The crisis at Davis-Besse is the most serious safety issue to face a commercial nuclear
power plant since Three Mile Island. The GAO report shows that the NRC was ill equipped, ill informed and far
too slow to react. The NRC's reaction to Davis-Besse was inadequate, irresponsible and left the public at grave
risk."
The casks were discovered to have been built below technical specifications: the aggregate used to
fabricate the casks' outer concrete walls ­ essential for radiation shielding -- was poor quality, and the steel alloy
walls of the inner metallic canisters actually containing the irradiated nuclear fuel were ground too thin along the
weld lines, in violation of technical specifications. The Toledo Coalition for Safe Energy challenged the safety and
quality assurance of this proposal in 1994, but was overruled by NRC, which allowed loading of casks to begin in 1995. These faulty casks remain fully loaded with high-level radioactive waste onsite at Davis-Besse to this day, 15 years later.
High-level radioactive wastes are one of the most hazardous substances ever generated by humankind.
While electricity is but a fleeting byproduct, irradiated nuclear fuel will remain deadly and need to be isolated from the living environment "forevermore."
Without radiation shielding, it can deliver a lethal dose of gamma radiation in seconds or minutes, even decades after removal from the reactor. Alpha particle emitters, however, such as
Plutonium-239 -- a microscopic speck of which, if inhaled, could initiate lung cancer -- will remain hazardous for
hundreds of thousands of years. Other radioactive isotopes will remain deadly far longer ­ Iodine-129, for
example, has a 157 million year hazardous persistence.
On July 31, 2006, FirstEnergy publicly admitted four "occurrences of inadvertent releases of radioactive
liquids that had the potential to reach groundwater," adding Davis-Besse to the growing list of 102 reactors in the U.S. that have leaked radioactivity into the environment since the early 1960s (and as the reactor ages, such leaks will become more likely).
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2htm...ges=yes

Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant has also had some major problems and near catastrophes. Most people in Vermont want it shut down. The Vermont Senate voted 26 to 4 against renewing the license. A federal judge knocked them down and said states have no right to regulate nuclear power. Their license was supposed to expire this year but it has been expanded until 2032.

Monticello and Prairie Island MN have also had many problems.
The Monticello reactor had it's license extended an extra 20 years. It is now allowed to run until 2030. Prairie Island's two reactors were also extended 20 more years and are now licensed to run until 2033 and 2034.
Most of the nuclear power plants in the US have had problems, most of them have had major problems and are having them more often because they are all hitting their age limit. They were only supposed to run for 40 years, they are all hitting that limit now, and they are all being permitted extensions. Of all the nuclear plants in the US, only two of them meet Federal Fire Regulations.- Even after all these years.

Nobody has any idea what to do with all the nuclear waste that is dangerous for(almost)ever. We just keep piling it up. Even the piles are causing major problems and dangers. Doesn't this seem like a stupid thing to keep going with?
P.S. This isn't me saying "neenerneener I know something you don't know". I put the info in here just in case anyone doesn't know about these things yet. For some reason the mainstream news doesn't go around talking about these big problems much. I'm scared to death for the future of all of our kids, and honesttoGod if we the people don't start being more active and vocal in what is happening, things are NOT going to change.


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It is not convenient for us to know about it. It is better to stop wind energy because that is what is fed to the people by energy companies.

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It is not convenient for us to know about it. It is better to stop wind energy because that is what is fed to the people by energy companies.

You are right, it is not convenient for them if we know about these things. I also understand these things are ungodly scary and many people would rather stick their heads in the sand than think about them.
I'm not one of those people, and for all of our childrens'/grandchildrens' sakes none of us should pretend there isn't a problem.

The thing I just can not comprehend is that I'm sure most of these people that know about these issues, and cover them up. Most of these people must have children and grandchildren of their own. So I really really don't understand. I find it mind boggling.


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The thing I just can not comprehend is that I'm sure most of these people that know about these issues, and cover them up. Most of these people must have children and grandchildren of their own. So I really really don't understand. I find it mind boggling.

I can tell you why they don't care, it because it's all made up stories by conspiracy theorists that have nothing better to do than to yank the chains of their mentally unstable followers.

I mean how stupid/uneducated do you have to be to believe that the President can nullify the Constitution with executive orders? :dunce:


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I can tell you why they don't care, it because it's all made up stories by conspiracy theorists that have nothing better to do than to yank the chains of their mentally unstable followers.

Really Liberal. All the information on the nuclear power plants can be found all on your own. Almost all of the sources in the Beyond Nuclear paper I linked to are government sources. NRC, U.S. General Accounting Office, Department of Energy, big list of sources at the end of their paper. So, how exactly can you call the nuclear power plant degradation conspiracy theory?

All the information I gave after their paper I found myself. All in completely "credible" news sites and government sites. Look for yourself.

Naww, it's alot easier to just call people names and pretend they are lying kooks isn't it.


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The only links you've posted was one for http://coalitionagainstnukes.org/  (I'm sure you can completely trust them, I'm sure they don't have an agenda at all)

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The Davis-Besse Nuclear Plant in Ohio has had a ridiculous amount of very big problems.
In 2002, Davis-Besse's old nuclear reactor head
nearly burst. The lid was weakened by massive amounts of acid that had leaked from the reactor over several
years. The acid induced heavy corrosion on top of the head. Radioactive steam would have formed in a U.S.
nuclear containment vessel for the first time since the 1979 half-core meltdown of Three Mile Island Unit 2 in
Pennsylvania if Davis-Besse's lid had been breached. The only thing preventing that was a thin stainless steel
liner that had started to crack and bulge, records show.
Federal prosecutors later described the incident as one of the biggest cover-ups in U.S.
nuclear history. Two former Davis-Besse engineers were convicted of withholding information and put on
probation; the utility itself wound up paying a record $33.5 million in civil and criminal fines"; this represents the
"largest single fine ever proposed by the NRC."
The crisis at Davis-Besse is the most serious safety issue to face a commercial nuclear
power plant since Three Mile Island. The GAO report shows that the NRC was ill equipped, ill informed and far
too slow to react. The NRC's reaction to Davis-Besse was inadequate, irresponsible and left the public at grave
risk."
The casks were discovered to have been built below technical specifications: the aggregate used to
fabricate the casks' outer concrete walls ­ essential for radiation shielding -- was poor quality, and the steel alloy
walls of the inner metallic canisters actually containing the irradiated nuclear fuel were ground too thin along the
weld lines, in violation of technical specifications. The Toledo Coalition for Safe Energy challenged the safety and
quality assurance of this proposal in 1994, but was overruled by NRC, which allowed loading of casks to begin in 1995. These faulty casks remain fully loaded with high-level radioactive waste onsite at Davis-Besse to this day, 15 years later.
High-level radioactive wastes are one of the most hazardous substances ever generated by humankind.
While electricity is but a fleeting byproduct, irradiated nuclear fuel will remain deadly and need to be isolated from the living environment "forevermore."
Without radiation shielding, it can deliver a lethal dose of gamma radiation in seconds or minutes, even decades after removal from the reactor. Alpha particle emitters, however, such as
Plutonium-239 -- a microscopic speck of which, if inhaled, could initiate lung cancer -- will remain hazardous for
hundreds of thousands of years. Other radioactive isotopes will remain deadly far longer ­ Iodine-129, for
example, has a 157 million year hazardous persistence.
On July 31, 2006, FirstEnergy publicly admitted four "occurrences of inadvertent releases of radioactive
liquids that had the potential to reach groundwater," adding Davis-Besse to the growing list of 102 reactors in the U.S. that have leaked radioactivity into the environment since the early 1960s (and as the reactor ages, such leaks will become more likely).
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2htm...ges=yes

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This one Liberal

And like I said in my last comment. Every other bit of information I gave I found in mainstream news or government websites themselves.


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That's a link to a PDF document storage site. The PDF is from a website beyondnuclear.com and the description of the site is in bold letters on the front page. "Working for a World free of Nuclear power and nuclear weapons".  (Not sure, but I think they might have an agenda)

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And like I said in my last comment. Every other bit of information I gave I found in mainstream news or government websites themselves.

So why not post the links to these "mainstream news and government websites"?


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Liberal · Posted on Oct. 21 2012,1:51 am

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That's a link to a PDF document storage site. The PDF is from a website beyondnuclear.com and the description of the site is in bold letters on the front page. "Working for a World free of Nuclear power and nuclear weapons".  (Not sure, but I think they might have an agenda)


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So why not post the links to these "mainstream news and government websites"?


Maybe because it's more fun to think it's "scaring" others into thinking and having a same belief about everything related to government as they do???   :notworthy:
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That's a link to a PDF document storage site. The PDF is from a website beyondnuclear.com and the description of the site is in bold letters on the front page. "Working for a World free of Nuclear power and nuclear weapons".  (Not sure, but I think they might have an agenda)

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Almost all of the sources in the Beyond Nuclear paper I linked to are government sources. NRC, U.S. General Accounting Office, Department of Energy, big list of sources at the end of their paper.


You must have missed this part of my comment.


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