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This is my real name
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Posted on: Feb. 03 2010,4:38 am |
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(busybee @ Feb. 02 2010,3:59 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE I don't have an issue with them recording either. However - do you think they'd be okay with us having a camera in our car recording them if we are pulled over? Would it violate a law if people did? I don't remember what state it was, but I read a recent story (a few months ago) where a law was made against recording your own interactions with police officers - which makes absolutely no sense, since you would be taping within your own vehicle.
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Post Number: 23
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Feb. 04 2010,12:08 am |
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(Wareagle11B @ Feb. 02 2010,11:09 pm)
QUOTE In a nutshell BB that is my entire point. Such technology as we are discussing here can only be a safeguard for the police against the criminal or in some cases it can prove a citizens complaint. How many times do we hear about police brutality in some large city like NYC and this technology could have saved the citizens council and the NYPD a lot of headaches by proving or disproving the complaint. It doesn't safeguard police if they ARE guilty of misconduct or assault. Many of the stories you hear about are simply ignored, until it winds up on youtube.
There was a story about a guy a while ago who was charged for assaulting a cop, among other things. He showed up for court with a busted nose and accused the police of assaulting him while he was in handcuffs on the ground. The judge and everyone else believed the cops. No lawsuit, no desk duty for the cops, and the guy wound up facing charges for it. Until it wound up on youtube later on...
Turns out the guy wasn't lying. The police grabbed him, cuffed him and put him face down on the ground, where they proceeded to slam his head against the concrete so hard that you could hear his nose breaking on the video footage. There was no reason for it, and many witnesses at the scene were happy to testify, but they were ignored until the video came out.
If you ask me, there aren't enough lawsuits. I have no doubt there's a lot of really good cops out there. There's several in Albert Lea that I believe are extremely professional. But misconduct and abuse does happen, and for every lawsuit there's plenty of times a victim winds up in jail and the cop gets a pat on the back. As the story above happened, if there's no video, the truth is simply what the police say in the report.
As for police using video more, I'm all for it, but you can bet they'll fight against it. If it ever does happen, don't be surprised if certain videos get lost, or the camera seems to have a malfunction now and then.
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Post Number: 24
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White Pride
weißer Stolz
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2010,3:25 am |
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I carry a DVR every where I go. It's ready at a moment's notice. I've been burned way too many times in the "he said, she said" B.S. If there is ANY possibility that the pending conversation could be turned around, I am recording. It also helps greatly in the doctor's office for later review, and in "questionable" co-worker interactions. There will NEVER be another instance where I am in the right, and am accused of doing wrong.
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What bothers people more... the fact others disagree w/them, or that the others just might be right after all?
If you're being stupid, acting stupid, or just plain stupid, I will not hesitate to let u know!
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Apr. 09 2015,9:53 am |
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Still a good idea 5 years later..
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Self-Banished
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Posted on: Apr. 09 2015,10:38 am |
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^^How about that, we agree on something.😳
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Post Number: 27
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Oldbadge
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Posted on: Apr. 09 2015,7:49 pm |
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I think you are dealing with a double edged sword here. I have no doubt that body cameras will eventually be standard equipment for Officers everywhere. Something to consider though, is that you remove the Officers discretion in many encounters. What would normally be a warning is now a citation, an arrest, whatever, because these tapes will be viewed by a supervisor, and supervisors want productivity! I'd much rather receive a butt chewing then getting fined or arrested!
If an Officer is acting within the scope of the law, by all means film them,they couldn't care less! The good ones have nothing to worry about, and the vast majority are good Officers.
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Apr. 09 2015,10:20 pm |
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(Oldbadge @ Apr. 09 2015,7:49 pm)
QUOTE I think you are dealing with a double edged sword here. I have no doubt that body cameras will eventually be standard equipment for Officers everywhere. Something to consider though, is that you remove the Officers discretion in many encounters. What would normally be a warning is now a citation, an arrest, whatever, because these tapes will be viewed by a supervisor, and supervisors want productivity! I'd much rather receive a butt chewing then getting fined or arrested!
If an Officer is acting within the scope of the law, by all means film them,they couldn't care less! The good ones have nothing to worry about, and the vast majority are good Officers. I highly doubt that a supervisor will be sitting around all day watching boring traffic stops..
The supervisor would be ready to slit his wrists after one day..
They'll only watch if there is a report of police misconduct or a citizen decides to go to trial..
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