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What are frivolous reasons?

The offender resists arrest so the cop uses a bit more force to convince the offender to settle down in order to get them cuffed. Said offender screams brutality and they have their friends around to back them up on the incident. Said Cop, and the entire Police Department, now has to fight the appearance of brutality as well as the possibility of a civil suit after the criminal one, if it gets that far. Furthermore said cop must also endure an internal investigation and the possibility of sitting at a desk, or a suspension, while the investigation proceeds instead of going out to do the job he was hired for.

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Think about it if you carry a gun illegally and get caught, you open yourself up to all the accusations that go along with it.  If you hang out with someone that carries a gun illegally and they get caught you open yourself up to all the accusations that go along with it.  Not saying its right, but it does happen.  Birds of a feather flock together.  It is disappointing when law enforcement paints with such a broad brush, but when they deal with it on a day to day and hour to hour basis you can see how it can color their judgement.  We do not live in a police state (yet), that being said if you don't want to come in contact with police and be painted with that broad brush stay away from the areas they are required to frequent to do their job.  Seems like a simple solution.  I don't see why it seems so cloudy for most of you.

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but when they deal with it on a day to day and hour to hour basis you can see how it can color their judgement.

You suppose their judgement would be a little more controlled if they were required to record interactions with the public?
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The offender resists arrest so the cop uses a bit more force to convince the offender to settle down in order to get them cuffed.


Don't they typically use mace or a stun gun instead of "force?"  

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Said offender screams brutality and they have their friends around to back them up on the incident.


It seems to me that law enforcement doesn't go solo much anymore in their interactions with the public.  I've even noticed that for the most part when someone is pulled over there's more than one patrol car at the scene these days.

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Said Cop, and the entire Police Department, now has to fight the appearance of brutality as well as the possibility of a civil suit after the criminal one, if it gets that far.


So true.  Our society is quick to judge all others in a group of wrongful actions whether they know the facts of a situation or not.  

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Furthermore said cop must also endure an internal investigation and the possibility of sitting at a desk, or a suspension, while the investigation proceeds instead of going out to do the job he was hired for.


So would anyone else who is accused of making an intolerable mistake while doing their job.
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Think about it if you carry a gun illegally and get caught, you open yourself up to all the accusations that go along with it.  If you hang out with someone that carries a gun illegally and they get caught you open yourself up to all the accusations that go along with it.  Not saying its right, but it does happen.  Birds of a feather flock together.  It is disappointing when law enforcement paints with such a broad brush, but when they deal with it on a day to day and hour to hour basis you can see how it can color their judgement.  We do not live in a police state (yet), that being said if you don't want to come in contact with police and be painted with that broad brush stay away from the areas they are required to frequent to do their job.  Seems like a simple solution.  I don't see why it seems so cloudy for most of you.

But yet when a Cop is accused of brutality such technology could make the case against him or exonerate him of the accusation. It could exonerate the accused as well.

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Don't they typically use mace or a stun gun instead of "force?"


Mace and a stun gun would be a use of force. :dunce:
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It seems to me that law enforcement doesn't go solo much anymore in their interactions with the public.  I've even noticed that for the most part when someone is pulled over there's more than one patrol car at the scene these days.

I would have to disagree with this a bit. We were involved in an accident yesterday, and my expecting multiple on the scene, only had one show up. Granted, it was a non-injury accident (thankfully..it could have been much worse), but after seeing multiple posts on here about multiple officers responding to various calls, it was still an expectation.  However, giving them benefit of the doubt, the officer DID say dispatch had reported the offending person (car) had been running(driving) out of the building (which was NOT what had been reported)...so maybe they were hesitant to send anybody...who knows?

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Mace and a stun gun would be a use of force.


An acceptable use of force by law enforcement if they believe they had probable cause, even if it could be proven not to have been necessary later.  At least that's my understanding of how laws protect law enforcement from civil lawsuits.
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Think about it if you carry a gun illegally and get caught, you open yourself up to all the accusations that go along with it.  If you hang out with someone that carries a gun illegally and they get caught you open yourself up to all the accusations that go along with it.  Not saying its right, but it does happen.


Yes, it does happen and if you've done nothing wrong, it's a very difficult place to be.  Granted, there are some battles worth fighting and some that aren't, but we shouldn't ever compromise ourselves for another's wrongdoing, no matter how much others accuse, assume or judge.  


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Not always...some try to leave the flock and the flock turns on them.  Sometimes you can come upon a flock unexpectedly, or the flock finds you.  

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It is disappointing when law enforcement paints with such a broad brush, but when they deal with it on a day to day and hour to hour basis you can see how it can color their judgement.


Judging people is not their job, no matter how much they see on a daily basis with the public.

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We do not live in a police state (yet), that being said if you don't want to come in contact with police and be painted with that broad brush stay away from the areas they are required to frequent to do their job.  Seems like a simple solution.  I don't see why it seems so cloudy for most of you.


Maybe it's cloudy because crap happens sometimes, no matter if you are choosing to be a part of it or not.
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But yet when a Cop is accused of brutality such technology could make the case against him or exonerate him of the accusation. It could exonerate the accused as well.


I completely agree and I also agree with the fact that it could make a case stronger against an accused when appropriate.
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