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Spock of Vulcan 
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Posted on: Jul. 25 2009,2:59 pm |
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And why do they think that?
Because the prisons are full of blacks about 10 to 1. For commiting such crimes.
A crime has just been commited, your presented with 2 possible suspects. A white guy and black guy, who do you put your money on?
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Spock of Vulcan
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Posted on: Jul. 25 2009,3:05 pm |
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So, are blacks over senstive about this subject. Yeah probably, sort of like Italian americans are about the mafia.
Was the black in this case, treated differently, then if he were white? Probably, but it's understandable, because a higher percent of the blacks are criminals. Just like a high percent of them have children out of wedlock all over the place.
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Spock of Vulcan
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Posted on: Jul. 25 2009,3:07 pm |
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What disorderly conduct? Asking why the cop wanted to arrest him for no reason?
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Jul. 25 2009,4:28 pm |
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The thing that bothers me about this isn't the race issue, or the police checking to make sure the guy was really the homeowner. The law against disorderly conduct was written so vague and broad that all of us have broken it at one time or another. Even many cops will admit that it's simply a "catch all" for people that they can't arrest for a real crime. Which is fine, until YOU'RE the one who an overzealous cop or prosecutor decides is "engaging in offensive or boisterous conduct or language that might arouse alarm, anger, or resentment in others."
I mean, for God's sake, read the MN statute on it as an example. You could be arrested for it and charged with a misdemeanor for simply complaining your steak was too rare, or getting angry at someone who's blocking your car.
MN Statute 609.72 - Disorderly Conduct
QUOTE The police report and the follow up report from the 2nd officer on the scene, several of the officers who came on the scene during the altercation, all state that the officer did his job in the proper fashion.
Hmm... Well, if the police report says they didn't do anything wrong, I guess they must not have. 
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Jul. 25 2009,6:01 pm |
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^Yeah, I noticed you mentioned others, but either way, I doubt any of them would badmouth a coworker on their reports.
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bianca
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Posted on: Jul. 26 2009,11:26 am |
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I think this whole story is so "small" in the scheme of things but.....
at first when I read about this I thought Obama was "reeled in" to this question from the reporter and he ultimately "took the bait" IMO, he really should have stayed on the topic for which the press conference was intended.
But this is from a president, which we haven't had, that keeps the public "aware" of what is going on and continues to do this. Bush hid out anytime/everytime the crap hit the fan.
Obama said that he didn't have all the facts and what he said was common knowledge whether Obama is part black, all black or even white for that matter. The sad truth is that he is right on with his comment that right here in America, as far as it may seem that we may have progressed, you still have policemen and others that automatically jump to the conclusion that when a crime has been committed it's either a black, latino, and/or illegal immigrant whether Obama said it or Bush.
There's a deputy right in town that when he moved to Albert Lea and wasn't yet a deputy had told me that he was stopped many times and he readily admitted to being stopped just because of the color of his skin. This isn't rare and for those of you to choose to believe this doesn't happen need to take off your rose colored glasses.
IMO, The president didn't say anything that isn't true still today. He just shouldn't have taken the bait.
As far as the actual incident, I think both parties must've been having a "bad hair day."  The whole incident was nothing that doesn't happen everyday in any big city.
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Posted on: Jul. 26 2009,12:00 pm |
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We have a constitutional right to be free from seziure in our home. Obama has the right to free speech like all of us do.
I think the police were STUPID for arresting a person at his home for no more than being pissed at strangers(police) with guns in his home.
I have the right to say get the fffk out of my house.
There are times when police need to take a hike along with their ego. 
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