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TameThaTane 
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2007,9:38 pm |
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See, you could care less the neocons stole billions from the treasury, so why should I care about you?
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TameThaTane
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Posted on: Oct. 28 2007,9:48 pm |
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Yes, perhaps you have a point Botto. Obviously, I'm still a tad bitter over earlier life experiences.
Just delete yourself by not posting. You HAVE choices. If Liberal deletes your handle, you'll just have to make-up a new handle when you cool off. I never use mod powers. You just don't like my opinion and so want to see me punished. That's OK, I don't always agree with your opinion either.
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My choice is what I choose to do,
And if I'm causing no harm, it shouldn't bother you.
Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
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Expatriate
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Posted on: Oct. 29 2007,9:00 am |
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(Common Citizen @ Oct. 27 2007,11:48 am)
QUOTE Wallstreet doesn't seem to have a problem with any of this. 
A far better barometer of whether we are in a recession would be a view of utility delinquency lists
CenterPoint Energy, the state's largest provider of natural gas, reported that about a third of its customers - about 208,000 businesses and households - owe money. More than half of those delinquent customers are at least two months behind on payments, and owe an average of $1,500. CenterPoint's outstanding bills total $100 million, double what the company has seen in recent years. Xcel Energy has also noted increased delinquencies, as has Minnesota Energy Resources, which serves 51 counties around the state....the list goes on...
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Common Citizen
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Posted on: Oct. 29 2007,9:18 am |
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Interesting...I'd like to see the study if you can point me in the right direction...
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Oct. 30 2007,11:48 am |
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Does this prove that we're in a recession?
No, it proves that people owe money.
QUOTE The CenterPoint move comes as concerns mount nationally over high consumer debt, rising payments on adjustable-rate mortgages and higher levels of unemployment. I didn't see anything there about concerns over a recession, despite the wishful thinking of the Donks. High consumer debt, higher payments on mortgages--hard to pin THAT on Bush--but give us an old-fashioned RECESSION, well, THAT would be good! 
QUOTE Last summer, CenterPoint reported that about a third of its customers -- about 208,000 businesses and households -- owed money after the heating season. Gee, Wally, d'ya 'spose that might have somthin' to do with the fact that utilities can't shut off the gas in Minnesota in the winter time? Not much incentive to pay the utility bill, when you know that they can't do anything about it.
The Donks are still smarting after the Clinton recession in 2000--when the economy took off under Bush. Stock market is high, unemployment low, consumer spending is high, GDP high, durable goods orders high--No evidence of a recession yet, but like Peter Pan, "if you really BELIEVE, it will come true."
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