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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jan. 23 2015,9:10 pm |
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Bush said from his own lips that the war in Afghanistan was a Crusade..
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Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jan. 23 2015,10:06 pm |
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For one thing, there was no T-ball when I was a kid or trophies.. Second, if you can't add to the conversation, don't act like SB with stupid comments..
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Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jan. 24 2015,2:58 am |
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You got a trophy for T-Ball?
How's your dog?
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irisheyes
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Posted on: Jan. 24 2015,8:06 am |
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(alcitizens @ Jan. 23 2015,2:58 pm)
QUOTE (irisheyes @ Jan. 20 2015,12:30 am)
QUOTE Thank you, I was going to point out that these wars had about as much to do with religions as any of America's past wars.
Wars are fought for economics, a modern day version of manifest destiny. Tell me the economic reason for the Bush wars that cost several trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan that you say would benefit Americans.. Sorry for the delay, I sometimes only come on here every day or two. I didn't say the lives lost or the trillions spent benefited Americans, I said "Wars are fought for economics, a modern day version of manifest destiny." Chomsky refers to this as "Hegemony or Survival".
The reasons for invading Iraq turned out to be false, I don't think Bush and Co. were lying (many D's and R's believed he had WMD's), but once we were there they didn't have any intention of leaving. Long story short, most know that if Iraq wasn't in oil country we wouldn't be there, in the discussions of Iraq's importance in the region and the world it always leads to their influence on the oil market. Oil, and their proximity to Israel and Iran are the main reasons it's always been important. And those are economic reasons. Oh, as for Isreal, the fact that AIPAC owns most of our politicians plays a pretty big role whenever we end up defending Tel Aviv from another nation over there.
QUOTE I don't see economic benefit from as Bush once said, a crusade in Afghanistan. I think we can agree that Bush wasn't the brains of the operation. That's probably the way he viewed it, but most of the others who supported the war (myself included) saw it as going in to get find the WMD that were there in violation of the sanctions from the '91 war.
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Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jan. 24 2015,8:27 am |
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What was the benefit of occupying Afghanistan? Nothing but a poor country run by radical right-wingers and NO oil..
We could have bombed the piss out of them when they stuck their noses out of their caves.. We could have kept them isolated like we did for about a decade in Iraq until we occupied them in 2003..
Long story short, Bush and Cheney were the King and Queen of kooks..
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