But now, in the 21st century, they seem like a bunch of pus.. I mean, whiners who bully their own members by using intimidation and fear tactics when they don't get their way.
So, you think unions are wimps ("pus..") while at the same time you claim they're bullies and thugs who intimidate and cause fear to the rest of you. I'm glad to see cognitive dissonance hasn't gone out of style.
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Yep...there you have it. Intimidation and fear mongoring. Union thugs just can't help themselves. Which page in your union propaganda book is that on?
The union thugs and Donks in Wisconsin
Both your FOX story in Kansas and you bringing up Wisconsin were targeted at Teachers, and as I pointed out Wisconsin exempted the state police. So in the conservative world, Teachers are thugs who use aggression and intimidation, but the union members who carry guns are allowed to be exempted.
^This proves once again that books and intelligence are clearly more intimidating to conservatives.
Yep. To me they are a bunch of whiney wimps. It doesn't mean they don't use intimidation and fear mongering on their own members. One has nothing to do with the other.
C'mon. Are you unable to discern the difference?
My point was about the unions not teachers. Again, more discernment issues. You didn't prove a thing.
At least scabs should be treated equally under the constitution----the illegal immigrant scabs, the hopelessly nieve scabs, the flag waving scabs, the nihilistic expedient scabs. All misguided for various reasons, but equal.
Misguided? You mean the union member who has no self respect? No personal drive? Who has to pay to have someone make a decision for him or her? Who when by themselves are milk toast harmless but when in a group are no better than a bunch of street thugs?
You have some interesting views on the word "misguided"
Your description of union members fits many groups---religious, political, social. And of course it applies to corporate shareholders and investment groups who profit hugely from corporations which seek low wage employees.
Zealous politicians, bankers, and corporations decided to "westernize" Third World hell-holes for personal profit. A lowering of our standard of living, wages, ethics, and things like 9/11, trillion dollar wars, etc are just some of the hidden costs.
Let's all keep our mouths shut, "work harder", and keep step to the drums. Just like our ma'sas wish.
At least scabs should be treated equally under the constitution----the illegal immigrant scabs, the hopelessly nieve scabs, the flag waving scabs, the nihilistic expedient scabs. All misguided for various reasons, but equal.
Misguided? You mean the union member who has no self respect? No personal drive? Who has to pay to have someone make a decision for him or her? Who when by themselves are milk toast harmless but when in a group are no better than a bunch of street thugs?
You have some interesting views on the word "misguided"
Your description of union members fits many groups---religious, political, social. And of course it applies to corporate shareholders and investment groups who profit hugely from corporations which seek low wage employees.
Zealous politicians, bankers, and corporations decided to "westernize" Third World hell-holes for personal profit. A lowering of our standard of living, wages, ethics, and things like 9/11, trillion dollar wars, etc are just some of the hidden costs.
Let's all keep our mouths shut, "work harder", and keep step to the drums. Just like our ma'sas wish.
Funny thing about unions is that in a closed shop state you have to join if you want to work, that is my biggest problem with unions. Religious, political, social? One is free to join or leave factions as one wishes. Unions stink of socialism, thus as I said, no innovation, no initiative, work enough to get by. Masters? We all have them, no exceptions. I just get to choose mine and I don't have to keep my mouth shut like a union thug would.
I've never belonged to a union. Unions have evolved into inefficient beaurocracies. Unions arise for various reasons---some ideological, some bring forward legitimate issues. Union formation can be a symptom of poor business practice. Union formation is often a sign of a cofused weak fragmented workforce.
Equating non-union workplaces as fertile ground for freedom of speech? Ask all those workers fired from Slavemart, etc whenever they put forth a list of complaints. Of course then there are those people who would say "if you don't like your job find another one". That arguement smells of a dead spineless jellyfish.
Has "choice" or "freewill" devolved to the point where we are satisfied when we are allowed a choice between who or what attaches a ring and chain to our nose and gives it a tug?
Union people prefer one type of ring and chain. Non-union prefer another. Both groups are being led by the same master---big money. The idea that work-place bosses are in control is an illusion. You may notice. They have rings in their noses also. And the same with "independent" business. We must remember that more & more highly competive employers, large or small, place high priority on products/services, not human needs.
Big money laughs as the ringed proles squabble and blame the other. Big money is to blame for low wages/poor working conditions. But who is to blame when humans appear satisfied with these injustices?
I went to the movies yesterday, I walked into the lobby and there was a a row of kiosks. I walked up to one, used the touch screen, slid my card and a ticket pops out. How efficient! I imagine it won't be too long before the snack counter works the same.
