(Liberal @ May 05 2014,11:44 pm)

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Good info about the GMO kooks on the left  being the equivalent of climate change deniers on the right.

http://www.researchgate.net/post..._safety

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Eric Smith · Polyglot Studios, KK

Carlene: I object to your dismissal of historical facts as "rants". Let's look at the literally millions of lives Monsanto's previous products have destroyed:

1. Agent Orange - According to the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 4.8 million Vietnamese people were exposed to Agent Orange, resulting in 400,000 people being killed or maimed, and 500,000 children born with birth defects.[15] Women had higher rates of miscarriage and stillbirths, as did livestock such as cattle, water buffalo, and pigs. York,Geoffrey; Mick, Hayley; "Last Ghost of the Vietnam War", The Globe and Mail, July 12, 2008

2. PCBs - The National Institute of Environmental Health "...found evidence of an association between employment at this plant and melanoma and brain cancer mortality."

You can see company documents showing Monsanto knowingly hid massive public exposures from the public for decades: http://www.chemicalindustryarchives.org/dirtysecrets/anniston/1.asp

3. rBGH - After an 8-year scientific review, Canada banned the use of rBGH, Monsanto's first genetically-engineered product. The main concern is high levels of IGF-1 contained in the milk of rBGH treated cows, which range from 200% to 1000% normal levels when compared to those found in normal cow's milk. It's also banned in Australia, New Zealand and Japan.

The U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) and the Consumer's Union, which publishes Consumer Reports magazine, warn of health hazards from products derived from rBGH-treated cows, primarily over the link between elevated IGF-1 levels and cancers.

The main point is that this company has a very dark history of callously poisoning people and the environment, and then using very aggressive tactics to cover up the facts. They cannot be trusted with the safety of our food.

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Stephen Ekker · Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research
Seems to me that the GMO 'debate' is based on a few key points: 1) general fear of technology 2) general distrust of corporate intentions 3) support from a few largely discredited papers. I truly do not know of a single paper that shows a real threat due to GMOs, and most scientists like Dr. Borlaug consider GMOs to be essential for feeding the world in the 21st century.

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Genetically modified foods…
Are they safe?

The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) doesn’t think so. The Academy reported that “Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food,” including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, faulty insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system. The AAEM asked physicians to advise patients to avoid GM foods.
Before the FDA decided to allow GMOs into food without labeling, FDA scientists had repeatedly warned that GM foods can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects, including allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems. They urged long-term safety studies, but were ignored.

Since then, findings include:

Thousands of sheep, buffalo, and goats in India died after grazing on Bt cotton plants

Mice eating GM corn for the long term had fewer, and smaller, babies

More than half the babies of mother rats fed GM soy died within three weeks, and were smaller

Testicle cells of mice and rats on a GM soy change significantly

By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies

Rodents fed GM corn and soy showed immune system responses and signs of toxicity

Cooked GM soy contains as much as 7-times the amount of a known soy allergen

Soy allergies skyrocketed by 50% in the UK, soon after GM soy was introduced

The stomach lining of rats fed GM potatoes showed excessive cell growth, a condition that may lead to cancer.

Studies showed organ lesions, altered liver and pancreas cells, changed enzyme levels, etc.

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(Botto 82 @ May 06 2014,12:40 pm)

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As has been pointed out before, as soon as someone resorts to ad hominem attacks, it's a pretty safe bet some part of them believes they are losing the argument...




If GMO's are so safe, why is the industry so Hell-bent on keeping them from being labeled as such?

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A 2013 review of 1,783 papers on genetically modified crops and food published between 2002 and 2012 found no plausible evidence of dangers from the use of currently marketed GM crops.[78] Biofortified, an independent nonprofit organization devoted to providing factual information and fostering discussion about agriculture, especially plant genetics and genetic engineering, [79] plans to add the studies found by the Italian group to its database of studies about GM crops, GENERA.[80][81]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies

(Liberal @ May 06 2014,12:45 pm)

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So when you called me looney tunes it was meant as a compliment, or did you just realize you were losing the argument?

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If you honestly believe that there's no cause for concern when it comes to Monsanto, you're more looney tunes than I had earlier imagined. Retroactively using your logic, we would still have lead-based paint, lead fuel additives, and carbon tetrachloride fire extinguishers.