Forum: Opinion
Topic: City Chickens
started by: MADDOG

Posted by MADDOG on May 05 2014,9:03 am
I'd been following chicken issue in Northwood with some humor.  One family had decided to start eating more healthy in a method they chose.  Gardening and storing and canning their own fresh grown foods was a choice they made.  Leo Hendrick and his wife, Jerilea, and their two sons do not eat processed meat.  Leo hunts for his families meat along with raising rabbits for food.

Then they decided to start raising their own chickens for eggs.  That's when their troubles began.  Some cities allow chickens to be raised in residential areas as families are looking to get their foods from more healthy means.

Locally, Mason City allows for chickens as does Albert Lea.  What got me steaming is when the city council of Northwood decided at their council meeting who could speak and who couldn't.  

< Live in Northwood, lose your rights >

< A Veteran Gets Criminal Treatment and Censored over Chickens >

Roger.  Are you listening?  :D

Posted by Self-Banished on May 05 2014,9:31 am
I read that letter this AM, kinda disturbing the way they were treated.
Posted by This is my real name on May 05 2014,9:44 am
I read the letter to the editor on this subject. Apparently, one of their city councilors who lives within city limits keeps cattle on his property - without consequence.
Posted by Self-Banished on May 05 2014,11:36 am
But cows are talented
Posted by MADDOG on May 05 2014,12:25 pm
It's..whoa SB.  I don't think I'm going to comment on that one.  

Anyway.  The infringement on his First Amendment right started at his trial when he wasn't allowed to speak on the benefits of home-grown, non GMO food, how some cities had wrote ordinances to be chicken friendly or that the only complaints made were by the government, not neighbors or town folk.

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“We were sick of corporate farming, GMOs and pesticides,” Hendrick told Storyleak. “The price of groceries just keeps going up too so this is really the only way me and my family can survive.”

Unfortunately for Hendrick, once city council learned of his family’s chickens, a Worth County sheriff’s deputy arrived at his home late August to present a letter demanding he remove all animals from his property within 10 days.

“It really wasn’t a surprise. I don’t blame the sheriff’s department though,” Hendrick said. “There has never been a citizen complaint at all about my chickens or my gardens. It just comes down to the city government complaining about it.”


Then he was ridiculed by the council and mayor.  With the support of many neighbors physically and written, he went to the city.  
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“They actually told me that I just needed to ‘fit into society’ and comply,” Hendrick said. “The mayor even told me that government intruding into lives like this was okay and needed, which I didn’t agree with.”
 < The Backyard Provider >

The issue isn't whether he broke a city ordinance.  The issue rather is good law or bad?

Posted by Self-Banished on May 05 2014,2:15 pm
This is America (at least for a little while longer) a lawsuit would probably get the city's attention.
Posted by Liberal on May 05 2014,3:19 pm
I live in the city because I don't want to live around livestock. I don't care what anyone eats but personally I like the idea of Genetically Modified Foods, I'm looking forward to the day when I can order up a 3lb shrimp.


What does being a vet have to do with this?

Posted by MADDOG on May 05 2014,4:33 pm

(Liberal @ May 05 2014,3:19 pm)
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I live in the city because I don't want to live around livestock. I don't care what anyone eats but personally I like the idea of Genetically Modified Foods, I'm looking forward to the day when I can order up a 3lb shrimp.


What does being a vet have to do with this?

You like genetically modified foods?  

May I?  :crazy:

:D

Posted by Self-Banished on May 05 2014,5:00 pm
Just think, turkey's with 6 drumsticks. :p
Posted by Blackwell on May 05 2014,7:19 pm
Yep!
Posted by Botto 82 on May 05 2014,7:27 pm

(Liberal @ May 05 2014,3:19 pm)
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I live in the city because I don't want to live around livestock. I don't care what anyone eats but personally I like the idea of Genetically Modified Foods, I'm looking forward to the day when I can order up a 3lb shrimp.

I agree wholeheartedly. Science can fix anything, as long as we throw a gazillion dollars at it. Quit your whining, and hand over the poultry, and eat toxic crap like everybody else. It hasn't hurt Walmart Scooter Blimp-O-Woman, and it won't hurt you.
Posted by Liberal on May 05 2014,7:51 pm
Now that you mention it, cheap 3lb shrimp would be awesome.
Posted by Self-Banished on May 05 2014,8:22 pm
^^^...as long as it's not overcooked.
Posted by Liberal on May 05 2014,11:44 pm
Good info about the GMO kooks on the left  being the equivalent of climate change deniers on the right.

< http://www.researchgate.net/post..._safety >

Posted by Self-Banished on May 06 2014,4:13 am
Oh, much like global warming control freaks and sheep. :blush:
Posted by grassman on May 06 2014,5:49 am
Monsanto, Monsanto, Monsanto, M o N S a nto......
Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,6:43 am
The link I supplied discusses how bad that "peer reviewed" rat study was in the comments. The best comments are from a medical journal's editor in chief.

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Stephen Ekker · Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research
Seems to me that the GMO 'debate' is based on a few key points: 1) general fear of technology 2) general distrust of corporate intentions 3) support from a few largely discredited papers. I truly do not know of a single paper that shows a real threat due to GMOs, and most scientists like Dr. Borlaug consider GMOs to be essential for feeding the world in the 21st century.
Jun 3, 2013

Susan Kirk ·
ahahahha Stephen you add another element (4) of dare I say propaganda, feeding the world in the 21st century. Something else that has yet to be proved.
Jun 3, 2013

Stephen Ekker · Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research
The Seralini study is truly terrible. As an editor-in-chief of a scientific journal, I read it initially and was in total disbelief that it had passed any level of reasonable peer review. The authors set themselves up for propaganda (since someone brought the word up) from the beginning - raising fundamental ethical issues about their motives. In the end, the only way that study will be totally and appropriately discredited will be for a quality version of it to be conducted with proper controls and statistical power.

Ironically, I am not a big fan of such an expensive followup study. I believe that Seralini's work is so bad that it does not deserve to be considered a viable report to pursue. We have real problems that are underfunded, and I'd prefer not to negotiate with what seemingly appears to be scientific terrorism.

Another reason I see no purpose to funding the negative followup study is that it would not convince the disbelievers. The autism / vaccination fraud work showed that people will believe what they want.

I am also sorry that members of that team are so blinded that they cannot see the fundamental flaws in that work themselves.

All of the data points to 9 billion passengers on Spaceship Earth by 2050. Where are they going to get food? Genetically developed crops are going to be a major part of that solution,
Jun 4, 2013



Posted by Self-Banished on May 06 2014,9:20 am
^^^
Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,10:25 am
< http://www.snopes.com/food/tainted/monsantocorn.asp >
Posted by Self-Banished on May 06 2014,10:34 am
^^^well then, don't use their product.
Posted by Botto 82 on May 06 2014,10:53 am

(Liberal @ May 05 2014,11:44 pm)
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Good info about the GMO kooks on the left  being the equivalent of climate change deniers on the right.

< http://www.researchgate.net/post..._safety >

From the comments section of your article:

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Eric Smith · Polyglot Studios, KK

Carlene: I object to your dismissal of historical facts as "rants". Let's look at the literally millions of lives Monsanto's previous products have destroyed:

1. Agent Orange - According to the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 4.8 million Vietnamese people were exposed to Agent Orange, resulting in 400,000 people being killed or maimed, and 500,000 children born with birth defects.[15] Women had higher rates of miscarriage and stillbirths, as did livestock such as cattle, water buffalo, and pigs. York,Geoffrey; Mick, Hayley; "Last Ghost of the Vietnam War", The Globe and Mail, July 12, 2008

2. PCBs - The National Institute of Environmental Health "...found evidence of an association between employment at this plant and melanoma and brain cancer mortality."

You can see company documents showing Monsanto knowingly hid massive public exposures from the public for decades: < http://www.chemicalindustryarchives.org/dirtysecrets/anniston/1.asp >

3. rBGH - After an 8-year scientific review, Canada banned the use of rBGH, Monsanto's first genetically-engineered product. The main concern is high levels of IGF-1 contained in the milk of rBGH treated cows, which range from 200% to 1000% normal levels when compared to those found in normal cow's milk. It's also banned in Australia, New Zealand and Japan.

The U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) and the Consumer's Union, which publishes Consumer Reports magazine, warn of health hazards from products derived from rBGH-treated cows, primarily over the link between elevated IGF-1 levels and cancers.

The main point is that this company has a very dark history of callously poisoning people and the environment, and then using very aggressive tactics to cover up the facts. They cannot be trusted with the safety of our food.


If you honestly believe that there's no cause for concern when it comes to Monsanto, you're more looney tunes than I had earlier imagined. Retroactively using your logic, we would still have lead-based paint, lead fuel additives, and carbon tetrachloride fire extinguishers. :crazy:

Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,11:15 am
Uncle nutsy called me looney tunes. :rofl:

I guess all the researchers must be looney too? Where do you figure they are hiding all these sick people that have been eating GMO's like roundup resistant soy beans for the last 15-20 years?

Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,11:28 am
Why is it nutjobs will read 120 comments by reputable researchers at reputable institutions and they pick out the crazy post from a guy selling self help books to back up their position?

I'll stick with the Mayo guys opinion.

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Stephen Ekker · Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research
Seems to me that the GMO 'debate' is based on a few key points: 1) general fear of technology 2) general distrust of corporate intentions 3) support from a few largely discredited papers. I truly do not know of a single paper that shows a real threat due to GMOs, and most scientists like Dr. Borlaug consider GMOs to be essential for feeding the world in the 21st century.


should be a #4) They're usually dumber than a bag of hammers.

Posted by Botto 82 on May 06 2014,12:40 pm
As has been pointed out before, as soon as someone resorts to ad hominem attacks, it's a pretty safe bet some part of them believes they are losing the argument...
:deadhorse:

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Genetically modified foods…
Are they safe?

The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) doesn’t think so. The Academy reported that “Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food,” including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, faulty insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system. The AAEM asked physicians to advise patients to avoid GM foods.
Before the FDA decided to allow GMOs into food without labeling, FDA scientists had repeatedly warned that GM foods can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects, including allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems. They urged long-term safety studies, but were ignored.

Since then, findings include:

Thousands of sheep, buffalo, and goats in India died after grazing on Bt cotton plants

Mice eating GM corn for the long term had fewer, and smaller, babies

More than half the babies of mother rats fed GM soy died within three weeks, and were smaller

Testicle cells of mice and rats on a GM soy change significantly

By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies

Rodents fed GM corn and soy showed immune system responses and signs of toxicity

Cooked GM soy contains as much as 7-times the amount of a known soy allergen

Soy allergies skyrocketed by 50% in the UK, soon after GM soy was introduced

The stomach lining of rats fed GM potatoes showed excessive cell growth, a condition that may lead to cancer.

Studies showed organ lesions, altered liver and pancreas cells, changed enzyme levels, etc.

< Article >


If GMO's are so safe, why is the industry so Hell-bent on keeping them from being labeled as such?

Posted by Grinning_Dragon on May 06 2014,12:45 pm
Stay classy northwood city council, I am sure Joseph Goebbels would be quite proud of his lil nazi's infringing upon a persons property rights.

Those council members would have a heart attack in seeing some of the small type farms in city limits where I live.

Just right down the road, there is chickens, goats, and a whole lot of firewood corded and bundled.  There is hickory, apple, mesquite and sugar maple just to name a few.

Why do you hate freedom northwood?

Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,12:45 pm

(Botto 82 @ May 06 2014,12:40 pm)
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As has been pointed out before, as soon as someone resorts to ad hominem attacks, it's a pretty safe bet some part of them believes they are losing the argument...
:deadhorse:

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Genetically modified foods…
Are they safe?

The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) doesn’t think so. The Academy reported that “Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food,” including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, faulty insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system. The AAEM asked physicians to advise patients to avoid GM foods.
Before the FDA decided to allow GMOs into food without labeling, FDA scientists had repeatedly warned that GM foods can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects, including allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems. They urged long-term safety studies, but were ignored.

Since then, findings include:

Thousands of sheep, buffalo, and goats in India died after grazing on Bt cotton plants

Mice eating GM corn for the long term had fewer, and smaller, babies

More than half the babies of mother rats fed GM soy died within three weeks, and were smaller

Testicle cells of mice and rats on a GM soy change significantly

By the third generation, most GM soy-fed hamsters lost the ability to have babies

Rodents fed GM corn and soy showed immune system responses and signs of toxicity

Cooked GM soy contains as much as 7-times the amount of a known soy allergen

Soy allergies skyrocketed by 50% in the UK, soon after GM soy was introduced

The stomach lining of rats fed GM potatoes showed excessive cell growth, a condition that may lead to cancer.

Studies showed organ lesions, altered liver and pancreas cells, changed enzyme levels, etc.

< Article >


If GMO's are so safe, why is the industry so Hell-bent on keeping them from being labeled as such?

So when you called me looney tunes it was meant as a compliment, or did you just realize you were losing the argument?


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A 2013 review of 1,783 papers on genetically modified crops and food published between 2002 and 2012 found no plausible evidence of dangers from the use of currently marketed GM crops.[78] Biofortified, an independent nonprofit organization devoted to providing factual information and fostering discussion about agriculture, especially plant genetics and genetic engineering, [79] plans to add the studies found by the Italian group to its database of studies about GM crops, GENERA.[80][81]

< http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies >



Posted by Botto 82 on May 06 2014,12:53 pm

(Liberal @ May 06 2014,12:45 pm)
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So when you called me looney tunes it was meant as a compliment, or did you just realize you were losing the argument?

Try to pay attention. My words, again:

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If you honestly believe that there's no cause for concern when it comes to Monsanto, you're more looney tunes than I had earlier imagined. Retroactively using your logic, we would still have lead-based paint, lead fuel additives, and carbon tetrachloride fire extinguishers. :crazy:


Note that the looney tunes reference was conditional upon your belief that Monsanto never did anything that we could concern ourselves with. So are you saying then that rGBH and PCB's and Agent Orange are all things we never should have been concerned with?

Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,12:58 pm
So it was meant as a compliment, or did you just realize you were losing the argument?

With all your scientific evidence it's amazing that more people don't buy into the GMO conspiracy theory. :sarcasm:

Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,1:10 pm
Actually the way you go on about your intelligence I wouldn't think I'd have to explain the English language to you, but clearly you don't understand what the word "more" means?

For example when I say your position on GMO makes me think you're more of a nut than I previously thought. In English that would mean that I clearly am calling you a nut regardless of your position on GMO's, and if you disagree with my position on GMO's then you're more of a nut than I had thought earlier.

So when you said I was looney tunes was it meant as a compliment or did you just realize you were losing the argument?

Posted by Botto 82 on May 06 2014,1:18 pm
Let me put this another way: Given their track record on public safety, trusting Monsanto with our food supply makes about as much sense as trusting Tom Petters or Bernie Madoff with our retirement savings.
Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,1:23 pm
So you have no evidence that there is any risk for GMO's other than you don't trust Monsanto?

Out of curiosity,  are only Monsanto produced GMO's dangerous, or are they all dangerous regardless of who produces it?

Posted by Botto 82 on May 06 2014,1:36 pm
I think more research is needed, no matter who is doing the genetic manipulation of our food supply.. I choose to err on the side of caution. And as long as these things are going to remain ubiquitous, I think products with GMO ingredients should be labeled as such, so consumers can decide for themselves whether or not they want to eat them.
Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,1:55 pm
And BTW I am a Fort McClellan vet, the Army trained MPs and NBC specialists there for decades so I spent 4 months there for MP school. I'm also a member of the Ft McClellan toxic vets facebook page and even with all my autoimmune problems I don't believe there is a credible connection to the chemicals on the base and people's health problems. In fact it seems to me that the group is mostly a bunch of old soldiers looking for a disability check because they were diagnosed with diabetes in their 50's when they were 80lbs overweight and want to blame something other than their poor lifestyle choices for the situation they find themselves in.

Does the fact that there is not one documented case of health problems related to GMOs in the 18 years since they approved roundup resistant soybeans mean anything to you? You honestly think 18 years of real world use isn't good enough and we need to research it?

Do scientists that create GMO's have access to a different food source than us or do you think they are intentionally harming themselves and their family by creating these dangerous foods?

Posted by MADDOG on May 06 2014,6:09 pm
It seems the see-saw battle goes on.

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< 10 Reasons to Avoid GMOs >

The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) urges doctors to prescribe non-GMO diets for all patients. They cite animal studies showing organ damage, gastrointestinal and immune system disorders, accelerated aging, and infertility. Human studies show how genetically modified (GM) food can leave material behind inside us, possibly causing long-term problems. Genes inserted into GM soy, for example, can transfer into the DNA of bacteria living inside us, and that the toxic insecticide produced by GM corn was found in the blood of pregnant women and their unborn fetuses.

Numerous health problems increased after GMOs were introduced in 1996. The percentage of Americans with three or more chronic illnesses jumped from 7% to 13% in just 9 years; food allergies skyrocketed, and disorders such as autism, reproductive disorders, digestive problems, and others are on the rise. Although there is not sufficient research to confirm that GMOs are a contributing factor, doctors groups such as the AAEM tell us not to wait before we start protecting ourselves, and especially our children who are most at risk.

The American Public Health Association and American Nurses Association are among many medical groups that condemn the use of GM bovine growth hormone, because the milk from treated cows has more of the hormone IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor 1)―which is linked to cancer.


That's the first of ten the AAEM determined as why we shopuld avoid them.  Unfortunately, GMO have become too prevalent to avoid wholely.  Like it or not.

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< Institute for Responsible Technology >

In 2009, the American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) stated that, "Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with genetically modified (GM) food," including infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, faulty insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system.

In 1992, the Food and Drug Administration claimed they had no information showing that GM foods were substantially different from conventionally grown foods. Therefore they are safe to eat, and absolutely no safety studies were required. But internal memos made public by a lawsuit[2] reveal that their position was staged by political appointees who were under orders from the White House to promote GMOs. In addition, the FDA official in charge of creating this policy was Michael Taylor, the former attorney for Monsanto, the largest biotech company, and later their vice president.

In reality, FDA scientists had repeatedly warned that GM foods can create unpredictable, hard-to-detect side effects, including allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems. They urged long-term safety studies, but were ignored.

Today, the same biotech companies who have been found guilty of hiding toxic effects of their chemical products are in charge of determining whether their GM foods are safe. Industry-funded GMO safety studies are too superficial to find most of the potential dangers, and their voluntary consultations with the FDA are widely criticized as a meaningless façade.

GM plants, such as soybean, corn, cottonseed, and canola, have had foreign genes forced into their DNA. The inserted genes come from species, such as bacteria and viruses, which have never been in the human food supply.


Maybe your problem might not have been in the water at Fort McClellan afterall.

Posted by Liberal on May 06 2014,8:52 pm
My autoimmune problems started the year I got out of the Army which was 10 years before the first GMOs were sold.

If you would have taken the time to read the first link you'd see that you just posted the garbage that the writer debunked. Try to keep up.

Posted by grassman on May 07 2014,6:10 am
Just imagine if you could control the food of the world. ???


June 20, 2013  |  


The following content originally appeared on TruthOut.


There has been mixed news for the agrochemical giant Monsanto recently. On the one hand, there was the  surprise announcement on June 1 by company spokesman Brandon Mitchener: "We are no longer working on lobbying for more cultivation in Europe...  Currently we do not plan to apply for the approval of new genetically modified crops."

The embattled corporation has decided to stop tilting against the windmill of European resistance to its controversial biotech seeds. Eight EU nations have already prohibited GM (genetically modified) cultivation on their territory and banned the import of genetically modified foods from abroad. But Monsanto's prospects in the United States took a very different turn last month when the US Supreme Court ordered Indiana farmer Vernon Bowman to pay Monsanto over $80,000 for planting its GM soybean seeds. Bowman had purchased the seeds from a grain elevator rather than from Monsanto itself, as their corporate contract requires. The seeds had been saved from an earlier crop.  

For as long as humans have been growing food, farmers have saved seeds from their harvest to sow the following year. But Monsanto and other big seed companies have changed the rules of the game. They have successfully argued that they spend millions of dollars developing new crop varieties and that these products should be treated as proprietary inventions with full patent protection.  Just as one can't legally reproduce a CD or DVD, farmers are now prohibited from copying the GM seeds that they purchase from companies like Monsanto, Bayer, Dow and Syngenta.  

In one sense, these corporations no longer sell seeds - they lease them, requiring farmers to renew their lease with every subsequent growing season. Monsanto itself compares its GM seeds to rental cars. When you are finished using them, rights revert to the owner of the "intellectual property" contained within the seed.

Some farmers have saved their seeds anyway (called "brown bagging"), in some cases to save money, in others because they don't like the big companies telling them how to farm. Monsanto has responded with an all-out effort to track down the brown baggers and prosecute them as an example to others who might be tempted to violate its patent. By aggressively enforcing its "no replant policy," Monsanto has initiated a permanent low-grade war against farmers. At the time of this writing, the company had not responded to emailed questions about its seed saving policies.

"I don't know of [another] company that chooses to sue its own customer base," Joseph Mendelson of the Center for Food Safety told Vanity Fair Magazine. " It's a very bizarre business strategy."

Yet the strategy appears to be working. Over 90 percent of the soybeans, corn, canola and cotton grown in the United States are patented genetically modified organisms (commonly known as GMOs). The soybean variety that Bowman planted has proved popular with farmers because it has been modified to survive multiple sprayings by Monsanto's best-selling herbicide Roundup, whose active agent is glyphosate. While Monsanto claims that GMOs increase crop yields, there is little evidence that this is the case. The chemical giant turned seed company also claims that the new technology decreases the need for agrochemicals. Yet 85 percent of all GM crops are bred to be herbicide resistant, which has meant that pesticide use is increasing as a result of the spread of GM crops. What GMOs were designed to do - and indeed accomplish - is create plants that can be grown efficiently in the chemical-intensive large scale monocultures that dominate American agriculture.

Posted by Self-Banished on May 07 2014,7:53 am
I guess farmer Bowman didn't read the fine print. :(

I suppose one could elect to grow non-GMO but if the farmer next door is growing Monsanto's seed it's going to cross pollinate, so how does that work???

Posted by grassman on May 07 2014,8:22 am
In numerous cases, when it blows into a neighboring field, it becomes a Monsanto patent.
Posted by Self-Banished on May 07 2014,11:26 am
So it's not "your chocolate's in my peanutbutter." And vice versa?
Posted by Liberal on May 07 2014,11:32 am
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Farmers When GMOs or GM Seed is Accidentally in Their Fields
Myth: Monsanto sues farmers when GM seed is accidentally in their fields.

Fact: Monsanto has never sued a farmer when trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits were present in the farmer’s field as an accident or as a result of inadvertent means.

It is truly as simple as this: Monsanto has a long-standing public commitment that “it has never been, nor will it be, Monsanto’s policy to exercise its patent rights where trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits are present in a farmer’s fields as a result of inadvertent means.”

The misperception that Monsanto would sue a farmer if GM seed was accidentally in his field likely began with Percy Schmeiser, who was brought to court in Canada by Monsanto for illegally saving Roundup Ready® canola seed. Mr. Schmeiser claims to this day the presence of Monsanto’s technology in his fields was accidental – even though three separate court decisions, including one by the Canadian Supreme court, concluded his claims were false.

In 2012-2013, two separate courts acknowledged that Monsanto has not taken any action – or even suggested taking any action – against organic growers because of cross-pollination.
The Organic Seed Growers and Trade Association (OSGATA) and others filed a lawsuit against Monsanto in an effort to invalidate Monsanto’s patents because of alleged fears of Monsanto exercising its patent rights and suing farmers if crops were inadvertently cross-pollinated. The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York dismissed the case and commented:

There was no case or controversy in the matter because Monsanto had not taken any action or even suggested taking any action against any of the plaintiffs.
Monsanto had a long-standing public commitment that “it has never been, nor will it be, Monsanto policy to exercise its patent rights where trace amounts of our patented seeds or traits are present in a farmer’s fields as a result of inadvertent means.”
Plaintiffs’ allegations were “unsubstantiated … given that not one single plaintiff claims to have been so threatened.”
Plaintiffs had “overstate[d] the magnitude of [Monsanto’s] patent enforcement,” noting that Monsanto’s average of roughly 13 lawsuits per year “is hardly significant when compared to the number of farms in the United States, approximately two million.”
For information on Monsanto’s use of patents to protect scientific innovation, please visit the Innovation and Patents section of our web site.

< http://www.monsanto.com/newsvie...ds.aspx >



Posted by MADDOG on May 07 2014,11:42 am
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If the Americans like to eat GMO products, let them eat it then. We don’t need to do that; we have enough space and opportunities to produce organic food.” – Dmitry Medvedev


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Russia Completely Bans GMOs

Russia has been considering joining the long list (and continually growing) of anti-GMO countries  for quite some time now. It does so after a group of Russian scientists urged the government to consider at least a 10-year moratorium on GMOs to thoroughly study their influence on human health.

A number of scientists worldwide have clearly outlined the potential dangers associated with consuming GMOs. I recently published an article titled “10 Scientific Studies Proving GMOs Can Be Harmful To Human Health,” you can read that in full here.  These are just a select few out of hundreds of studies that are now available in the public domain, it seems that they continue to surface year after year.

Russia completely banning GMOs, such a large, developed nation is a big step forward in creating more awareness with regards to GMOs. Ask yourself, why have so many nations banned GMOs and the pesticides that go with them? It’s because evidence points to the fact that they are not safe, they are young, and we just don’t know enough about them to safely consume them. They just aren’t necessary, so why produce them?

Within the past few years, awareness regarding GMOs has skyrocketed. Activism has played a large role in waking up a large portion of Earths population with regards to GMOs. People are starting to ask questions and seek answers. In doing so, we are all coming to the same conclusion as Russia recently came to.

In February, the State Duma introduced a bill banning the cultivation of GMO food products. President Putin ordered that Russian citizens be protected from GMOs.  The States Agricultural Committee has supported the ban recommendation  from the Russian parliament, and the resolution will come into full effect in July 2014.

This just goes to show what we can do when we come together and demand change and share information on a global scale. Change is happening, and we are waking up to new concepts of our reality every day. GMOs are only the beginning, we have many things to rid our planet of that do not resonate with us and are clearly unnecessary. We are all starting to see through the false justifications for the necessity of GMOs, no longer are we so easily persuaded, no longer do we believe everything we hear and everything we’re presented with. Lets keep it going!

< Collective Evolution-Inspiring us to expand our way of thinking >

Posted by grassman on May 07 2014,6:27 pm
Experts Speak Out Against GMO in Mexico: Global Center of Crop Origination Must Be Protected

by Christina Sarich
April 1st, 2014
Updated 05/06/2014 at 4:12

Mexico is unlike many other places on earth, in that it is globally recognized as a Vavilov Center, a center of crop evolution and origin. Some of the foods the entire world enjoys came from the fertile Tehuacan Valley or other rich agricultural fields in this country. If GMO were allowed to ravage these age-old crops, some of the world’s food heritage would be robbed from us all. It is due to the peculiarity of this region of the world that experts are now flocking to support a non-GMO agricultural paradigm.

Mexico’s agricultural biodiversity is beyond rich. It isn’t just the non-GMO corn tortilla we would lose by allowing biotech to get its hands on the land there. Plant scientists have discovered more than 60 varieties of maize in Mexico – the equivalent of a natural genetic treasure chest, which could be completely spoiled if companies like Monsanto, Dow Chemical, Dupont, Syngenta, etc. were to get their grubby little hands on Mexico’s agricultural real estate. Even extreme weather situations could be aided by so many types of maize crops, since they thrive in various conditions – from wet to dry, hot or cold.

It is due to Mexico’s agricultural biodiversity that many experts are now coming together to help inform a general public that is still very much ignorant about genetically modified foods in their area. Mexico’s agricultural history and genetic biodiversity hang in the balance.

Other than some media attention in 2013 during a court battle to ban GM maize, swiftly passed by a Mexican judge who believed the cultivation of a GM crop was a threat to farming heritage and ecosystem viability, the masses are still largely unaware of many issues surrounding GMO.

Mercedes López Martínez, a spokesperson for a Mexican nonprofit organization, Via Organica, whose mission is to promote better nutrition through organic agriculture explained that:


“There is no position of the Mexican people in general regarding GM foods, as the government, violating the constitutional right of the people to healthy food, has not provided information about the risks of these GMO products, which are not even labeled.

However, there is strong opposition from informed and organized civil society organizations, which have demanded that the government apply the precautionary principle, to protect biodiversity and crops of origin such as corn and cotton. Proof of this is the lawsuit filed by individuals and civil organizations that managed to stop all planting of GM Maize in Mexico and that is still on-going.”

GM companies are hoping that general public support (through ignorance they help to perpetuate) of their poison crops will help push them through legislation in Mexico. Both biotech and branches of the government are still in support of GMO even though these crops could completely kill off an innumerable amount of biodiversity in the country. The government and biotech look at possible profits while ignoring the long term effects of these crops.

With enough people realizing that protection of their agricultural history is equivalent to protecting thousands of years of cultural richness – from the Mayans who recognize maize as a staple crop with stories of Popul Vuh, to the discovery and opening of Maize Mountain, a place were maize seeds were hidden and protected according to Mayan legend, GMO could be defeated.

Luckily, a group of 53 scientists and 22 civil organizations called Acción Colectiva will draw on this rich cultural heritage, combined with sound scientific data to describe the imminent risk and harm to the environment if genetically modified crops are allowed in Mexico. Monsanto’s Chief Technology Officer, Robert Fraley, expects to end a suspension of the cultivation of GM maize in Mexico, but he won’t see it with enough education and activism, which could ignite Mexicans to oust these companies’ influence from their rich agricultural practices.

Acción Colectiva’s attorney, René Sánchez Galindo stated;

“The Calderón government illegally granted permits for the planting of GM maize, for which the results have been hidden. Currently there are 79 new applications pending. The good news is that all of these have been frozen by the court. Joy has filled the hearts of thousands. The current government now has a choice between defending the wealth of native maize or supporting Monsanto.”

It seems to me other countries are trying to keep GMO at bay, why is the U.S on board with GMO? ???

Posted by MADDOG on May 09 2014,4:51 pm
:focus:

It seems like there are numerous website dedicated to city folks raising chickens.  The obvious are www.citychickens.com and < http://www.thecitychicken.com/ >.  There are a lot of cities with laws written into the city codes to allow for them.  In Iowa for example of where the bad city of Northwood is located, some larger cities that allow chicks are Cedar Rapids, Clive, Johnston, Davenport, Des Moines, Sioux City, West Des Moines, Waukee and Windsor Heights.  In Minn-E-Sota there are Burnsville, Blaine, Apple Valley, Buffalo, Edina, Little Falls, Elk River, etc.

Some may not know what their laws really are.



:D

Posted by grassman on May 09 2014,5:19 pm
Chickens eat wood ticks. Good enough reason to have them.
Posted by Liberal on May 09 2014,5:21 pm
Well the family should move to a city that allows chickens, problem solved.
Posted by MADDOG on May 09 2014,5:28 pm
Like Albert Lea?  Not a bad idea.


Posted by Rosalind_Swenson on May 15 2014,3:44 pm
If the city ordinance in Northwood stipulates that written permission is needed then I don't see why the city council is worried that "chickens will take over". It would be a case by case type of thing, and if any rules aren't followed they could just yank that person's permit. I would gladly trade the constantly yapping chihuahua across the street for a dozen chickens any day! Besides, he's right about the chemicals in our foods. Scientists, researchers and doctors were warning about using anti-biotics for increasing growth in our livestock as soon as it started being done.- and all these years since. Now our antibiotics are pretty much useless. Stupid. Doctors prescribing antibiotics when they shouldn't might be part of the problem (personally I have never experienced that happening) but the majority of antibiotics used in the US are used in livestock feed to fatten them up faster, and to try to cut down on diseases in big unhealthy cooperate livestock operations. So most of us are getting constant small doses in our meats, eggs, milk and milk products.
As for GMO's, scientists, researchers and doctors started warning about possible different problems with those too, and of course, some of the things they warned about are already happening. Cross contamination is a huge one. Even if all the pro-GM safety studies that have been done were trustworthy, there is no way of knowing the consequences when more and more of these transgene plants start mixing their genes together. - Which was also being warned about.
Constant revolving door between Monsanto type corporations and government. All the biotech corporations almost completely control research into GMO's so there is hardly any independent studies done, and if any independent study points to big problems the industry completely crushes and destroys the scientists by any means possible. - same as with whistleblowers. Most of these GMO's don't have any kind of real evaluation before they are released. The biotech companies wrote the rules and just tells the regulatory agencies they are substantially equivalent as their counterparts, and safe.

Here's a couple of disturbing documentaries, if anyone hasn't already seen them

The World According to Monsanto.  Documents GMO lies, some of the problems and interviews whistleblowers.
< http://youtu.be/N6_DbVdVo-k >

Farmageddon . Shows how insane the FDA and USDA are.
< http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzdov7_farmageddon-1-of-5_news >

The second one is difficult to find online. Netflix has it. On the site I linked to there is a full version posted by Hulu, it wouldn't work for me but maybe it will for others, otherwise type farmageddon into that sites search and watch separate parts.


liberal
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If you would have taken the time to read the first link you'd see that you just posted the garbage that the writer debunked. Try to keep up.


Which link and which writer?

Posted by MADDOG on Jul. 21 2015,10:40 am
There must be more to this story than I caught.  Someone in Austin must want to have a few layers.

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It’s not every day you get to talk about chicken feces at a city council meeting.

Brittany Perry didn’t mind. The Austin City Council was in the middle of a discussion on a potential chicken ordinance during its June 2 meeting and she was there to listen, offer research and advocate for Austin residents who want to raise chickens in their backyards.

When Mayor Tom Stiehm grew concerned about chicken feces as an issue should the city pass a chicken ordinance, Perry was there to explain how chicken feces had less bacteria than other animal waste and could be used as garden fertilizer. Plus, chickens don’t produce as much waste as domestic animals, according to Perry.

“It’s all in how you take care of them,” she told the council.

Despite Perry’s research and the support of about 15 residents at the meeting, council members decided 4-3 to table a potential ordinance.

For Perry, the decision is just another step toward a larger discussion about chickens.

“I’m not discouraged at all,” she said. “It’s government, and I definitely was happy they tabled it instead of saying no.”

Perry is the latest in a long line of residents across the state who have petitioned their local governments to raise chickens in urban settings. It’s a growing issue within many communities and Austin’s city council is likely to discuss a chicken ordinance again.

< full story >


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(< ABC 6 NEWS >) -- The City of Austin will not be moving forward with a proposed chicken ordinance.

In Monday's work session, the city council voted 4 to 3 against the proposal. The ordinance would have allowed people to raise a select number of chickens within city limits.

Council members have cited issues with property values as a reason not to move forward. We're told the issue could be revisited in the future.


I can still remember all the times Roger used to bich about his neighbor's birds.  :rofl:

Posted by Self-Banished on Jul. 21 2015,11:35 am
City of Mpls allows chickens

< http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/sustainability/homegrown/WCMS1P-129866 >

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