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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Jun. 14 2012,8:21 am |
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How many of these hesitant stories have been published? It seems like I have read that headline and a variant of this same story quite a bit over the past few months.
Is this some sort of campaign to warm people up to idea that it isn't going to happen?
QUOTE County hesitant over regional collaborative
A decision about a proposed regional human services redesign is expected to take place later this month after Freeborn County commissioners continue to discuss the potential collaboration.
Raising concerns about transition costs and how each county’s role would be weighted, the board voted last week to table a decision about whether to join in with the collaboration. Commissioners will take up the issue again Tuesday at the Freeborn County Human Services board meeting.
“I have some real reservations,” said board Chairman Dan Belshan last week.
The action comes as 12 counties, including Freeborn County, are considering whether to join in the collaboration to deliver services. Other counties considering the redesign are Dodge, Fillmore, Goodhue, Houston, Mower, Olmsted, Rice, Steele, Wabasha, Waseca and Winona.
At least a half dozen of the counties are expected to vote this week whether to participate.
Freeborn County Administrator John Kluever said Tuesday afternoon he had not heard back from any of the counties that that had been slated to vote Tuesday.
Costs will be reconfigured if other counties drop out of discussions.
Locally, commissioners have pointed out concerns with taking away local control of services and asked whether it would be better to cluster with two or three other counties instead of having a dozen-county redesign. Belshan also pointed out concerns with the costs of transitioning to the collaborative model — particularly a proposed $11 million that is slated to go toward the consultant firm that has been working on developing the project.
“There’s a lot of questions and a lot of things that haven’t played out yet with other counties,” he said.
The proposal has been in the works for more than two years and came about because of continuous cuts in state and federal funding. This has led to reduced funding in most of the region’s counties. At the same time, more people are turning to county government for help with human services because of a lagging economy and the aging of the population.
Decisions for services would be made through a governance board consisting of representatives from each county, with the number of votes determined by the number of people served.
First District Commissioner Glen Mathiason and the other commissioners asked about Olmsted County’s role in the collaboration and noted that under the current proposal, it would account for 48 out of 100 votes. He asked how many votes it would take to approve items, and voiced support for needing at least three to five other counties on board in addition to Olmsted before an item can pass.
Kluever said it has not yet been determined how many votes will be needed to pass items.
The commissioners stated they had additional questions that needed to be answered, and said they did not want to take the decision lightly.
Kluever said under the current plan Freeborn County would avoid $25 million in costs after the first five years, $5.5 million after the first 10 years and $8.4 million after the first 15 years.
Estimates at one point called for $19 million in startup costs among all the counties.
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Botto 82
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Posted on: Jun. 14 2012,2:11 pm |
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Jesus wept...
I hope you're not the only one that thinks this is a bad idea...
How many more county roads will have to lose maintenance to make up for the vulture consultant costs?
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danbelshan
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Posted on: Jun. 14 2012,3:39 pm |
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And then there was 10.
Common sense is bubbling to the surface.
Winona, Fillmore counties walk away from regional human services plan June 13, 2012 12:00 am • By Adam Voge adam.voge@winonadailynews.com
Winona and Fillmore counties each backed away Tuesday from a 12-county plan to regionalize human services programming that once appeared promising but has begun to fray in recent months.
The Winona County Board of Commissioners unanimously approved a resolution Tuesday pulling out of the project, with plans to instead consider regional collaboration on a smaller scale. The Fillmore County Board of Commissioners passed a similar measure later in the day.
“It just alters things for us to the point where it would be difficult to do it on the regional level,” said commissioner Jim Pomeroy....
http://www.winonadailynews.com/news...7a.html
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hairhertz
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Posted on: Jun. 14 2012,4:21 pm |
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next the county will want to hire an admin who will coordinate a committe on consulting
[something like the vo-tech's committee on committees]
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hymiebravo
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Posted on: Jun. 19 2012,6:46 am |
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I think the point about using people already on the government payroll, to implement some sort of cost saving measures, is the crux of the matter.
Although the government certainly has a bad reputation in that regard. You do read about integration at state and local levels. So it isn't that far fetched of a concept.
When I read about something like this. It makes it sort of look like consultants run the local and state governments. And all the elected people are just brokers for them.
And using seemingly predatory consultants doesn't seem to be a very sound solution to anything.
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danbelshan
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2012,1:33 pm |
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All counties will vote by early next month, but six have already made their decision; Fillmore, Winona and Goodhue counties have opted out ...
http://www.austindailyherald.com/2012...-merger
6/19/2012 Rice County Board Rejects Redesign
Now their are 8
This thing is falling apart faster than State Highway 69 south of Albert Lea.
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scorenix
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Posted on: Jun. 24 2012,2:11 pm |
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(danbelshan @ Jun. 24 2012,1:33 pm)
QUOTE Now their are 8
This thing is falling apart faster than State Highway 69 south of Albert Lea. And myabe with good reason.
Lost in the cost savings argument is that Olmsted County provides far more services, early-age and preventative programs that Freeborn County does not provide. So cost savings evaporate, and may likely even cost more, if Olmsted County with 48% elects to continue with their programs.
Unless of course, you think Olmsted County, home to Mayo Clinic, would actually reduce these services.
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