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Heard a rumor that the new Kwik Trip can't proced with construction because they need to wait on the findings of the study. Any truth to that, can anyone confirm or deny?

I bet HyVee is doing all they can to keep this store from happening. HyVee was part of the reason the old gas station was closed down.
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Consultant recommends building new fire station

A report released Monday by a consultant firm studying the Albert Lea Fire Department has recommended that a new fire station be built.

The study, by Florida-based Almont Associates, looked at the existing fire station — along with four other possible locations — to evaluate response times, costs and other factors.

The evaluation comes as city leaders are studying the efficiency of the department while steering the city through tight budget times. The firm was hired to get an outside viewpoint.

According to the report, the existing station at City Hall, 221 E. Clark St., has become too small and creates a response risk with the vehicle and pedestrian traffic caused by City Hall. There is not enough storage or bay space for required equipment.

Fire trucks have to back into the station, and there’s no space for training. There is also problem with diesel exhaust, which can reportedly be smelled throughout City Hall.

The report stated firefighters can respond from the existing station to the core center of the city within four minutes and to the entire city within eight minutes.

Alternate locations explored were 400 E. Clark St., 201 W. Main St., 700 E. Main St. and the former Farmland Foods site on East Front Street.

The report stated while each location slightly modified the response times, the overall times changed very little.

The firm recommended the property of 700 E. Main St., the current location of the Albert Lea Township fire station, as the best site and said it would allow for both a station and training area. Fire smoke training would be OK there.

The report suggested a joint city and township facility be constructed because both fire stations are in need of replacement and each station is less than a half mile of each other.

It should also be built for multiple uses, and allow for sharing by the community for meetings or other public access. It should serve as an Emergency Operations Center during times of disaster, the report adds.

The firm also recommended the former Farmland site, though it noted fire smoke training would be an issue if retail establishments are built there. Pros to this site would be that the land is owned by the city and the station could be incorporated into a combination of retail and entertainment with recreational facilities.

The location of 400 E. Clark St., which would have required the purchase of some occupied houses, was not recommended by the firm.

Though the site of 201 W. Main St., the former Snyder drug location, could house the fire station with a training facility, it was found to be not conducive to fire smoke training.

The report stated a committee should be formed to address the options and plan for a new building.

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1. Don't ALL fire engines have to back into their respective stations, so they can leave quickly when dispatched?  :dunce:

2. If it doesn't change response times, why bother?  :dunce:

3. I have never heard of a fire station large enough to provide training space, have you?  :dunce:

4. In a city with an already distressed economy, don't you think this consulting money could have been better spent?  :frusty:


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C'mon Botto, they are consultants from Florida, THEY KNOW THEIR STUFF!!! It is what they do, TRUST THEM!!! If they say we need it, by God, WE NEED IT!!

As is sits now, our property taxes are not high enough. We are ONLY paying off a new high school (12 years old), that thing on the hill across from the old Aragon and an operating levy referendum.

NOW IS THE TIME!! If we wait babies will burn, seniors too, and we don't want that. A new station would prevent that for sure.
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4. In a city with an already distressed economy, don't you think this consulting money could have been better spent?


Yea that seems pretty silly to have to pay somebody to figure out a location, for something like that IMO Also you have quite an extensive availability of vacant buildings and empty lots around the city. I think a 5th grader could figure out a site that would suffice.

Or at least give you that list of options they paid for. lol

The consulting firm looks like a bunch of retired public dole people. Apparently they wanted some more time at the public pig trough. And they figured out that they can gorge off of troughs all over the country, instead of just one at a time.

I'm sorry about those comments. But it gets to a point where it is just sickening.

But the city council people don't make very much money. So maybe that is how they exact revenge on the public. lol
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It seems like a local consultant could be sitting on a goldmine!

Attention forum members: If any of you are gradutating high school this year, you may want to consider such a degree. Our local leaders have made it obvious they are willing to repeatedly spend tens of thousands of dollars on studies to have someone help them make decisions. You would probably be a more heavily favored job candidate if this was your hometown and you had a knowledge of the area. And if you have a relative or family friend employed by our local government, you are absolutely a shoo-in!


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Wouldn't it be great if the city "consulted" with it's constituents, instead?  What would happen if they took the public opinion into consideration before hired consultants?  OH MY GOD this city would actually turn around!

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Wouldn't it be great if the city "consulted" with it's constituents, instead?  What would happen if they took the public opinion into consideration before hired consultants?  OH MY GOD this city would actually turn around!

You mean instead of paying consultants to agree with what they've already decided to do?

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nobody on the council wants to make a call on somthing and take the blame if it does not workout
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I bet the guys from Florida have some great ideas about winter solutions for Albert Lea too :rofl:
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yup, probably could give us pointers on green grooming for winter golf

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