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[...]not to mention some folks just might shoot a few ruskies, just because they can.

That would be just plain stupid. Then again, this is America, where Stupid is King. :dunce:

Why?  Foreign troops on US soil, being dicks to the locals.
Yeah, I can see it, not to mention the lack of Constitutional understanding by the russian troops.

You're kidding, right? Pick any ten Americans at random, and I'll show you nine people with an equally limited understanding of the Constitution.

OK, fair enough, but I don't think that many people are that ignorant of the Constitution.  Another issue to garner is if you go by the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act, the use of foreign troops would be in direct conflict of the act.

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Russian soldiers at the Superbowl is quite a leap from emergency management training. :crazy:

Just taking it from the Ruskie website.  
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The document provides for expert cooperation in disaster response operations and to study the latest practices.

In addition, the parties approved of U.S.-Russian cooperation in this field in 2013-2014, which envisages exchange of experience including in monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.


A joint emergency training exercise in Colorado is a long way from Tennessee State Guardsmen stopping DHS armored vehicles from Kentucky with troops wearing very distinct uniforms for the Deptment of Homeland Security that were not recognized and the men they stopped were Eastern European.


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Some projections indicate that the U.S. Military budget is unsustainable. Couple that with the globalist mindset that the U.N. will be the world's governing body within the next 20 years, and suspicions like this don't seem that far removed from a coming reality.

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Counterintuitively, as their power wanes, empires often plunge into ill-advised military misadventures. This phenomenon is known among historians of empire as “micro-militarism” and seems to involve psychologically compensatory efforts to salve the sting of retreat or defeat by occupying new territories, however briefly and catastrophically. These operations, irrational even from an imperial point of view, often yield hemorrhaging expenditures or humiliating defeats that only accelerate the loss of power.

Embattled empires through the ages suffer an arrogance that drives them to plunge ever deeper into military misadventures until defeat becomes debacle. In 413 BCE, a weakened Athens sent 200 ships to be slaughtered in Sicily. In 1921, a dying imperial Spain dispatched 20,000 soldiers to be massacred by Berber guerrillas in Morocco. In 1956, a fading British Empire destroyed its prestige by attacking Suez. And in 2001 and 2003, the U.S. occupied Afghanistan and invaded Iraq. With the hubris that marks empires over the millennia, Washington has increased its troops in Afghanistan to 100,000, expanded the war into Pakistan, and extended its commitment to 2014 and beyond, courting disasters large and small in this guerilla-infested, nuclear-armed graveyard of empires.

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So you believe that the TN State militia stopped federal vehicles and found them occupied by soldiers in uniforms that they didn't recognize and they were speaking with an Eastern European accent and they did nothing? What good is that militia?

Since when does a state militia have any authority to stop a vehicle  especially a marked federal law enforcement vehicle?


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The state militia/guard has the backing of the TN govt and is a state volunteer guard, under command of the governor.  This is where they get their authority to stop vehicles on TN roads,  you know 10th Amendment and all.

There are 22 states that have a state run volunteer militia/guard.  
Looks like you have been in your lil bubble a wee bit to long.


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So you believe that the TN State militia stopped federal vehicles and found them occupied by soldiers in uniforms that they didn't recognize and they were speaking with an Eastern European accent and they did nothing? What good is that militia?

Since when does a state militia have any authority to stop a vehicle  especially a marked federal law enforcement vehicle?  So you believe that the TN State militia stopped federal vehicles and found them occupied by soldiers in uniforms that they didn't recognize and they were speaking with an Eastern European accent
 There can be a little stretching of any story.  I believe damn straight that the Tennessee Militia stopped the Bambinos' Federalis and glad they did.  I'd hope that when or if the Barack's personal DHS army trys out Texas or Arizona they get at least the same results.  The governors are under fire from Bam Bam because they are controlled not by the president, but each individual governor.  

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THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.


It's kind of difficult to prevent misconstruction or abuse of it's powers when they hide most everything or lie when things do get out in the open.


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Unlike you two wannabes I've actually enforced federal law in the states of KY an TN and if a militia group ever tried to stop us there would have been a firefight and I guarantee the militia would have been outgunned.

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I notice you kooks never offer up a credible source for these crazy stories.


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^ wow, Rambo. :rofl:

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I wasn't aware that military police had jurisdiction over civilians off base?

Exactly what is the authority of the military over civilian or state governments not being enforced by martial law?

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I notice you kooks never offer up a credible source
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