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Do you know what the word "training" means?
Or are you're suggesting our military currently deals with "security at mass events" and they're going to let the Russians assist them? Then you wonder why people think your elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.

Just out of curiosity, how many conspiracy theories have you believed over the last year? :crazy:

It says "training of rescuers" it goes on to say "provision of security at mass events". Do you know what the word provision means?

Are you suggesting our military doesn't deal with security at mass events? That's why I'm asking what "mass events" means.
Some army was sent during Hurricane Katrina. TSA was at the Vikings Stadium during a game in December for some reason.

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Then you wonder why people think your elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.


You and pepi... like I told pepi, it's a relief when certain people on this forum call me dumb or crazy.  :;):

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Just out of curiosity, how many conspiracy theories have you believed over the last year? :crazy:

Just out of curiosity, how many of my "conspiracy theories" did you end up looking like the crazy person while you tried to debunk information? I'm not the one who looks like a lying, spinning, delusional crazy person. You are. And I'm not the one making you look that way. You are.


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Here's what's curious...the US is upset about Snowden leaks...at the same time FEMA or the US basically signs up Russia to provide security at some events :dunno:  What is the UN now in charge of cross-training expeditions !!


It is weird,  all the aggression between the two countries over Snowden, Iran and Syria, but we're signing agreements to help each other out. Weird. And I absolutely can not find this on the FEMA or any other US government website, that's why I'm wondering if that is an official Russian government site. It sure seems to be, I wish I could read Russian.

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What is the UN now in charge of cross-training expeditions !!


I have no idea what is going on with this. It all just seems very very weird.


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In July 2008 presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama stated that Americans could no longer “…continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

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Dear friends, the following is a copy of my correspondence with Senator Cornyn concerning the arming of the DHS for war against the citizens of our nation.  You are each encouraged to copy and properly amend this letter to send to your own senators and members of the U.S. House.  Further, I am somewhat overwhelmed at the response to my posts leading up to this letter on this issue.  At this point almost 3,000 of you have shared my original post, I have 994 new friends requests, 61 messages, and 70 new comments to process.  Please be patient with me and pray that this window of communication remains open to all of us as we respond to this threat against our Constitution and our people.  I am awed by you, by your positive response, and your wonderful support.  We each have a role to play in standing against this present tyranny.  Part of that proper response is sending them a letter like this from YOU, and following it up to make sure it remains a "hot button" issue that must be resolved.  God bless you as you honor your oaths and your obligations as citizens of this free nation.  May we once again know honorable leadership and peace at home.  With all sincerity and respect--Resolved, Captain Terry M. Hestilow, United States Army, Retired.



The Honorable Senator John Cornyn, State of Texas

United States Senate

517 Hart Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C.  20510



Re:  Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and that agencies preparation for war against citizens of the United States of America.





Dear Senator Cornyn,



It is with gravest concern that I write to you today concerning the recent appropriation of weapons by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that can only be understood as a bold threat of war by that agency, and the Obama administration, against the citizens of the United States of America.  To date, DHS has been unwilling to provide to you, the elected representatives of the People, justification for recent purchases of almost 3,000 mine-resistant ambush-protected (MRAP) armored personnel carriers, 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (with associated weapons), and other weapons systems, when, in fact, the DHS has no war mission or war making authority within the limits of the United States of America.



Significant is the fact that at the same time the Obama administration is arming his DHS for war within the limits of the United States against the People of the United States in accordance with his 2008 campaign speech claiming,



   “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.  We’ve gotta (sic) have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded [as the United States military]”--Candidate Barack Obama, 2008.



the Obama administration is deliberately defunding, overextending, and hollowing the Department of Defense; the only legitimate agency of the U.S. government with a war mission.



This act of the Obama administration stands as a glaring threat of war against our nation’s citizens!  This act of the Obama administration can only be understood as a tyrannical threat against the Constitution of the United States of America!  If left unresolved, the peace loving citizens who have sworn to defend the United States Constitution “against all enemies, both foreign and domestic” are left no option except to prepare to defend themselves, and the U.S. Constitution, against this Administration’s “coup” against the People and the foundations of liberty fought for and defended for the past 238 years.  We have no choice if we honor our oaths.



The only proper response to this threat against the American people is for the representatives of the People, the members of the U.S. House and Senate, to demand in clear terms that the Administration cannot ignore, that the Department of Homeland Security immediately surrender their newly appropriated weapons of war to the Department of Defense (DoD).  Further, since the DHS has assumed a position in the Administration to enforce the tyrannical acts of this president against the People of the United States against the limits of the United States Constitution, it remains for the United States Congress to exercise its limiting power in the balancing of powers established by our founding fathers, to disestablish and dissolve the DHS as soon as possible.  One needs only to look to the rise of Adolf Hitler, and his associated DHS organizations, the SA and the SS, of 1932-1934, to see the outcome of allowing an agency of government this kind of control over the free citizens of a nation.  The people of Germany could not have imagined, until it was too late, the danger of allowing a tyrant this kind of power.  We must not be so naïve as to think it will not happen to us as well if we remain passive toward this power grab by the Marxist Obama administration!



Finally, for more than two centuries the nation has lived in peace at home because of the protections of our legitimate military and the many appropriate state and federal law enforcement agencies, supported by Constitutional courts.  We stand today at a cross-road.  Will we allow this present Administration to overthrow our United States Constitution and its legal processes to amend injustices, or, will we honor our obligations to defend the Constitution against a “domestic” enemy?  Our Constitution lays out the proper methods of resolving our differences; and it does not include its overthrow by a rogue agency of a Marxist leadership at home.  You, sir, are our constitutionally elected agent to defend our Constitution at home.  We are counting upon you.  We remain aware, however, of this present threat and will not expose ourselves as an easy prey to the authors of the destruction of our nation.



I know that this letter demands much of you.  We elected you because we, the citizens of the State of Texas, believe that you are up to the task at hand and will, against all threats, honor your oath and office.  We are also writing to your fellow members of the House and Senate to stand in integrity with the Constitution and against this present threat by the Obama administration and his DHS.



We refuse to surrender our Constitution or our nation!



Resolved,





Captain Terry M. Hestilow

United States Army, Retired

Fort Worth, Texas

March 23, 2013


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Whoa, dude.  Now this is another conspiracy.  Better batten down the hatch on this one, it's gonna make you wobble.

 



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MADDOG, in the first video you embedded in post 22, the woman talks about National Parks being posted as UN World Heritage Sites, I'd never heard of that before. So far that's the only part of that video I've been able to check out. Thank you for that video.
I've been checking into the UN World Heritage Sites, it seemed very odd to me. At least 21 of our National Parks and Monuments are on that list. The use of UN military is one of the things that can be requested for these sites, during conflict/natural disasters and social unrest. Apparently if the US requests UN military for any of these sites, they can get it.
I just came across this:

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In the case of the Okapi Wildlife Reserve, the World Heritage Centre contacted the United
Nations (UN) forces in DRC to send a military mission together with the DRC army to secure
the area and worked with the management authority to mobil
ize funding to address the
emergency situation through the Rapid Response Facility, the World Heritage Fund and
extrabudgetary resources.



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In the case of Timbuktu and the Tomb of Askia
(Mali)
, UNESCO prepared a Heritage map
and a passport which were printed in about 8,000 copies and distributed to all the armed
forced that intervene in January 2013
. The preparation of these documents has contributed
to preserve the World Heritage properties from further destruction during the military
interventions. The Director-General has also created a UNESCO special fund to help
rehabilitate the
World Heritage
properties once peace is ensured.


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http://whc.unesco.org/archive/2013/whc13-37com-7B-Add-en.pdf

What does the highlighted part mean? 8,000 copies of a Heritage map and passports?


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So now the O'Bambino organization has laid the groundwork for an army based from DHS, arming them with MRAPs and ballistic tipped and hollow point rounds banned by the United Nations.  Barack's private army is now protecting his fold from protesters known as Tea Party members.

Treason was the next step when he signed an agreement with Russia and Putin (remember when he said wait until after I'm re-elected).  This agreement will put Russian Civil Defense troops on U.S. soil to "administer and help maintain security at large events."

On June 25, 2013 in Washington, D.C. the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry, Russia’s equivalent to FEMA, signed an agreement with FEMA to allow Russian “experts”  to engage in “monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.”



So at the next Super Bowl or World Series, instead of off duty police officers or at the worst, O'Bambino's personal gladiators, you might just be seeing Russians Security Forces working the bleachers.  Who knows, maybe at the next Louisiana hurricane disaster instead of Mayor Ray Nagin confiscating your guns, it could be?  :dunno:


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So is the conspiracy thing a weekly occurrence?


It's all double speak if you're not smart enough to understand what you're reading.

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In response to the conflict taking place in the northern regions of Mali since April 2012, UNESCO, in collaboration with the National Directorate of Cultural Heritage in Mali and the International Centre for Earthen Architecture (CRAterre), has produced two publications on the cultural heritage of Timbuktu, Gao and Kidal. The first is an illustrated map with detailed texts in two f
ormats (A3-doublesided and poster versions). The second publication is a brochure entitled "Passeport pour le patrimoine” (Heritage Passport). Available in French, they provide detailed information on the location and the importance of cultural sites in the northern region of Mali. They were developed to raise awareness among the armed forces, NGOs, the international community and local communities about the importance of safeguarding these heritage sites.

http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/981


Russian soldiers at the Superbowl is quite a leap from emergency management training. :crazy:


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The thing about this, if it is true.  What legal authority would russian troops have in the US?  NONE.
Since they are a foreign force, their authority amounts to ZERO, not to mention some folks just might shoot a few ruskies, just because they can.


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[...]not to mention some folks just might shoot a few ruskies, just because they can.

That would be just plain stupid. Then again, this is America, where Stupid is King. :dunce:

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[...]not to mention some folks just might shoot a few ruskies, just because they can.

That would be just plain stupid. Then again, this is America, where Stupid is King. :dunce:

Why?  Foreign troops on US soil, being dicks to the locals.
Yeah, I can see it, not to mention the lack of Constitutional understanding by the russian troops.


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[...]not to mention some folks just might shoot a few ruskies, just because they can.

That would be just plain stupid. Then again, this is America, where Stupid is King. :dunce:

Why?  Foreign troops on US soil, being dicks to the locals.
Yeah, I can see it, not to mention the lack of Constitutional understanding by the russian troops.

You're kidding, right? Pick any ten Americans at random, and I'll show you nine people with an equally limited understanding of the Constitution.

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