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Glad I Left 
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Posted on: Aug. 25 2011,7:28 am |
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Call it what you want alci (for me anyway, I won't speak for CC), but in my eyes it is the truth. The dems and the repub's are basically the same. They just go about protecting their own different ways. Neither of them give a flying F about the common people.
As long as corporations/organizations can keep donating large sums of money to any candidate/party, that candidate/party is going to vote in their favor. Why would they cut off their gravy train?
And I will concede to you that it is party fantasy, that we will someday get a decent 3rd party candidate worth a crap, but I cannot in good conscience, vote for a POS one, that is why I did not vote for either Obama or McCain in 2008. And with the current field, I won't vote for Obama or whoever the Repubs put up in Nov of next year.
Even with the senate/house elections it is a lot of pull the cord and vote for the least crappy candidate.
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After we screw up health care reform, let's take on the initiative of unscrewing the education system (gov't education)
Tacitus: (c. 56 AD-c. 117) "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates."
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grassman
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Posted on: Aug. 25 2011,7:54 am |
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Hey where did you get that pic of Bachmann sucking up to the Hispanic voters?!  
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Aug. 25 2011,5:38 pm |
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"Democracy is being allowed to vote for the candidate you dislike least."--Robert Byrne.
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Aug. 26 2011,3:37 pm |
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Slower than projected economic growth and a new warning from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have put renewed pressure on President Obama and Congress to provide a needed jolt in September.
That dismal report was followed by Bernanke's admonition at an annual economic conference in Jackson Hole, Wyo., that Congress should come to the rescue with fiscal policies to promote growth.
"The quality of economic policymaking in the United States will heavily influence the nation's longer-term prospects. To allow the economy to grow at its full potential, policymakers must work to promote macroeconomic and financial stability; adopt effective tax, trade, and regulatory policies; foster the development of a skilled workforce; encourage productive investment, both private and public; and provide appropriate support for research and development and for the adoption of new technologies," Bernanke said.
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...fetcher
The question is: Will Republicans continue to hinder what is best for our country or will they do what is best for the Republican Party? 
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jimhanson
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Posted on: Aug. 26 2011,4:03 pm |
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From the USA Today article QUOTE To allow the economy to grow at its full potential, policymakers must work to promote macroeconomic and financial stability; adopt effective tax, trade, and regulatory policies; foster the development of a skilled workforce; encourage productive investment, both private and public; and provide appropriate support for research and development and for the adoption of new technologies," Bernanke said.
Repubs are FOR all of those things--but they would like to reverse the FAILED policies that the Donks have tried.
"Financial Stability"? How about STOP THREATENING TO RAISE TAXES on anybody that gets ahead?
"Effective tax, trade, and regulatory policies"? How about STOP ENACTING LAWS THAT DRIVE CORPORATIONS AND INVESTMENT MONEY OVERSEAS? The Donks seem to believe that they can continue their Jihad against corporations and investment capital with impunity. The result? It is easier and cheaper for corporations to put a border between themselves and the do-gooders from Washington--just as it causes corporations to leave the People's Democratic Republic of Minnesota for the welcoming arms of the Dakotas.
"Development of a skilled workforce"? How do you reconcile that, when our schools have been dumbed down by the social crisis du jour that the Donks believe in? Despite the record unemployment, the biggest lament among employers is often "The lack of QUALIFIED workers."
"Encourage Productive Investment"? Who WANTS to invest in an economy where you never know what the government is going to do to business from one month to the next? Business needs some certainty--not the anti-business attitude of the Obamunists. Business, banks, and investors are hoarding cash--do you REALLY think that they wouldn't WANT to invest it if they had some certainty? 
"provide appropriate support for R&D"--see above. Even the "Job Czar" Immelt is moving GE's business offshore to China--who wants to invest in this uncertain business climate?
QUOTE The question is: Will Republicans continue to hinder what is best for our country or what is best for the Republican Party? The Repubs will correct the mistakes of the ineffective programs of the last 3 years. We've already seen what Obamacare, nationalized industries, sops to trade unions, vacillating national policy, and top-heavy regulation does to the economy.
Sometimes, you just have to step back and say "Well, THAT didn't work out as expected--time to try something ELSE! The Donks keep trying Keynesian economics--something that has failed every time it has been tried--but they never seem to learn.
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Aug. 26 2011,7:12 pm |
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(alcitizens @ Aug. 26 2011,3:37 pm)
QUOTE Slower than projected economic growth and a new warning from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have put renewed pressure on President Obama and Congress to provide a needed jolt in September.
Isn't Barack going to reveal his new job growth plans after Labor Day? He's been telling the country this for a couple weeks now.
My question is, if he has a plan for new job growth, why is he waiting?
Why does he make the millions of unemployed wait in the dark for his plan?
He spent three days on a bus tour (not campaigning) in mostly rural areas where unemployment isn't as high. If he wanted to reach the people to give them HOPE that CHANGE in umemployment is coming, why didn't he go to urban areas where jobless numbers are the highest?
Is he going to spend more money on public programs? Maybe extend unemployment benefits even further? (After all, unemployment creates jobs, right?)
Continue to ask for tax increases on the people who can hire workers?
Why does he wait?
Too busy not campaigning? A long needed break from his job was needed? Does anyone else work where when they know it's going to get busy or an emergency comes up, the business puts a hold on all new employee vacations?
If he really needed this, he could have at least sent Congress a letter outlining what his proposals are so the House can hit the ground running. Or is it that he's going to have to wait to ask the Reblicnerds how to accomplish this?
He doesn't need to give another speech. We've already heard six or eight of them on jobs. (Unless he's hoping to lower his approval rating even more?)
Maybe some one here can reasonably explain what the hold up is?
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Aug. 26 2011,10:09 pm |
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(jimhanson @ Aug. 26 2011,4:03 pm)
QUOTE Sometimes, you just have to step back and say "Well, THAT didn't work out as expected--time to try something ELSE! The Donks keep trying Keynesian economics--something that has failed every time it has been tried--but they never seem to learn.
Since Bushonomics didn't work out very well for the country and Teabagonomics was even worse, I think its now time for Republicans to start working with the President to get this economy fired up so the economy will be just a smokin by November 2012..
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QUOTE Isn't Barack going to reveal his new job growth plans after Labor Day? He's been telling the country this for a couple weeks now.
My question is, if he has a plan for new job growth, why is he waiting?
President Obama will be putting out his jobs plan after Labor Day when Congress gets back to work after their summer Vacation..
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Aug. 26 2011,10:42 pm |
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(alcitizens @ Aug. 26 2011,10:09 pm)
QUOTE
(jimhanson @ Aug. 26 2011,4:03 pm)
QUOTE Sometimes, you just have to step back and say "Well, THAT didn't work out as expected--time to try something ELSE! The Donks keep trying Keynesian economics--something that has failed every time it has been tried--but they never seem to learn. Since Bushonomics didn't work out very well for the country and Teabagonomics was even worse, I think its now time for Republicans to start working with the President to get this economy fired up so the economy will be just a smokin by November 2012.. [Maddog] QUOTE Isn't Barack going to reveal his new job growth plans after Labor Day? He's been telling the country this for a couple weeks now.
My question is, if he has a plan for new job growth, why is he waiting? President Obama will be putting out his jobs plan after Labor Day when Congress gets back to work after their summer Vacation..
Is it suppose to be a surprise?
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MADDOG
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Posted on: Aug. 26 2011,10:44 pm |
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(MADDOG @ Aug. 26 2011,10:42 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE [Maddog] QUOTE Isn't Barack going to reveal his new job growth plans after Labor Day? He's been telling the country this for a couple weeks now.
My question is, if he has a plan for new job growth, why is he waiting? President Obama will be putting out his jobs plan after Labor Day when Congress gets back to work after their summer Vacation..
Is it suppose to be a surprise?
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Liberal
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Posted on: Aug. 26 2011,11:33 pm |
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What has the nut jobs/teabaggers/republicans done for jobs?
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