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Is it NOT true that Obambi fired the CEO of GM? How could he legally DO that?
He couldn't, and didn't regardless of what the junkie Limbaugh may have told you. QUOTE
Is it NOT true that the government took a big stake in GM?
I thought you claim they were nationalized?
Do you REALLY think that the CEO of GM quit of his own accord? 
Even lefty Politico and the FAR left "Humping a Post" described it as Obama firing the CEO. nullMy Webpage
I guess you can do that when the government owns 72% of the stock, and flips 15% over to the Union buddies, leaving the "secured stockholders and bondholders with 10%. 
And he wonders why businesses are leery of investing, and people are reluctant to buy stock with a bozo like this in control? 
Yes, I'd call taking the majority interest in a company and firing the CEO "Nationalization."  
Even Hugo Chavez joked about it. You didn't hear that on Colbert? Here's the link to ReutersMy Webpage QUOTE "Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right"
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Jim-- QUOTE Irish doesn't think that Obambi is a liberal.
Irish original quote QUOTE If you really think about all these things, only the people who are far right can view Obama as being a radical liberal, because he simply is not.
Irish NEW quote QUOTE You're misquoting me again, I explained he is not a radical liberal and I even pointed out reasons why.
Back to English class with you. 
I said that you DON'T think he is a liberal. You confirm your opinion by saying QUOTE I explained he is not a radical liberal
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Irish-- QUOTE He did not nationalize auto or banks How can you SAY that--when the government has effective control? They don't call it "Government Motors" for NOTHING!
QUOTE , and the teabaggers never cared about any of the stuff you talk about until a guy who isn't a republican is doing it. Maybe that's because Obama's actions so offended large groups of people that it CREATED the Tea Party.
Irish-- QUOTE Oh, as for deficits and spending. You're right on this, but conservatives have to grasp at some point that every president outspends the previous (you don't have to like it, but as they pointed out to Reagan, you can't keep increasing money for the largest part of gov, defense, and then be confused as to why the budget is exploding). Reagan outspends Carter, George H.W. outspends Reagan, Clinton outspends George H.W., Bush outspends Clinton, and Obama outspends Bush.
That's not true. Truman didn't outspend FDR. Eisenhower, even with the Korean War, spent less than Truman.
QUOTE Surprising, but unprecedented? Not exactly, and it's only a bad thing if it's a dem that's signing the bill, otherwise you frequently blame the Congress for it (unless it's a republican House doing the spending)
Blame Congress? Yes. The House alone sets spending and tax policy--the only thing that the Executive Branch (that's the President, for all the Donks) can do is sign it or not. The BIGGER picture is spending by Congress--check this graph.
And where will Obambi's spending as a percentage of GDP come in? OFF THE CHARTS, at about 102%.
Note the spending REDUCTIONS when conservatives took over the House in 1994, and the big INCREASE under Pelosi.
There's no denying it--Obambi/Pelosi/Reid have taken spending to a new level.
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Irish-- QUOTE You'll notice out of the above list, the only one who could balance a budget and come out with a surplus, was Clinton. I'll ask YOU, since no other libbie seems to be able to answer it--JUST WHAT DID DER SCHLICKMEISTER DO TO BALANCE THE BUDGET? He didn't cut spending--Gingrich & Company did. Do you recall him saying "The era of big government is over"?
Jim QUOTE He is a supporter of liberal causes, like ACORN and SEIU. In turn, he is by far the largest recipient of campaign money from these liberal groups. (If he WASN'T as libbie, why would all these far-left groups support him?)
Irish-- QUOTE Sure, helping the working class and people who break a sweat when they're on the clock IS a liberal cause. You don't expect those organizations to contribute to the republican nominee, do you? Ah, the old "The Dems are for the working man" argument. The only problem is--those contributors we were talking about were the National Education Assn. and the Lawyers. Hardly "working man." The true "blue collar" worker had his union dues CONFISCATED by the corrupt unions to further their own agenda--whether he wanted to support them or not. Is it any WONDER that union membership has fallen faster than even Obama's polls? Is it any WONDER that the Wisconsin unions are desperately trying to FORCE people to join the union every year? 
Jim QUOTE his socialist Czars.
Irish-- QUOTE Again, this is classic talking points from the repub spin machine. If you have an adviser or a director, you can call them a Czar if you want to use conservative newspeak. If I start a thread and refer to you as a Czar of the airport, how are you going to prove me wrong? I can even say you're a socialist czar if I want, and the statement is still correct. If not, feel free to prove it wrong.
Challenge accepted.
Did Obambi NOT create more "Czar" positions than any previous president?
Look at the record of these "Czars"--people that not only are advisors to the President, but are unelected and unconfirmed power brokers in government.
We have Van Jones (since sacked) an avowed Communist, as "Green Jobs Czar."
We have an avowed homosexual as the "Safe Schools Czar"--author of "The Queering of America" and advocate for teaching ALL government school children about homosexuality.
Auto Recovery Czar - Ed Montgomery
Title: Director of Recovery for Auto Communities and Workers
Salary: unknown
Reports to: Larry Summers, the president's top economic adviser, and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis
Appointed: March 2009
Department that might have handled similar issues: Labor
Will work to leverage government resources to support the workers, communities and regions that rely on the American auto industry.
Was Deputy Secretary and Chief Economist at the Labor Department (1997 to 1998)
Is Dean of the College of Behavioral and Social Sciences at the University of Maryland (2003 to present)
Has PhD in economics from Harvard
In 2008, made $1,200 in political donations, all of which went to Obama's presidential campaign.
Wife is the granddaughter of a General Motors worker from Portland, Mich.
Drives a 2000 Lincoln
ANY MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE? CAR EXPERIENCE?
Border Czar * - Alan Bersin
Title: Assistant Secretary for International Affairs and Special Representative for Border Affairs
Salary: unknown
Reports to: Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano
Appointed: April 2009
Agencies that might have handled similar issues: Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
Will coordinate all of the department's border security and law-enforcement efforts.
Essentially had the same job under President Clinton; served as Attorney General Janet Reno's special representative on border issues, a job that he held while retaining the position of U.S. attorney for San Diego.
This time, boss will be Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who will expect him to handle illegal immigration and drug violence issues along the Mexican-American border
Previous experience: Chairman of the San Diego Regional Airport Authority (2006 to 2009); Secretary of Education for California (2005 to 2006); Superintendent of San Diego Public Schools (1998 to 2005); U.S. Attorney for San Diego (1993 to 1998)
Graduate of Harvard and Yale Law School
Talking about border security shortly before he was named Clinton border czar in 1995, said he wanted to focus on suspected smugglers of both drugs and people and was not interested in prosecuting "economic migrants."
Often tied to the 1994 border policy called "Operation Gatekeeper." The policy shifted the U.S. focus from the arresting of immigrants who actually crossed the border to an increased border presence designed to stop border crossing in the first place. When Bersin left the position in 1998, border arrests were on pace for an 18-year low of just more than 200,000. Latino groups complained that Operation Gatekeeper was immoral, saying the program monitored the border near San Diego but simply forced illegal immigrants to other, more dangerous areas.
Has given more than $50,000 to political campaigns since 1999, almost all of it to Democrats.
Drug Czar * - Gil Kerlikowske
Title: Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy
Salary: unknown
Reports to: President Obama
Appointed: March 2009
Confirmed by Senate: May 7, 2009
Department that might have handled similar issues: Justice
Directs drug-control policy in the U.S.; is expected to shift drug policy to intervention, treatment and a reduction of problem drug use.
Was police chief for the city of Seattle from 2000-2009
Was Deputy Director of the Department of Justice's Office of Community Oriented Policing Services (1998 to 2000); Police Chief for the city of Buffalo (1994 to 1998); Police chief of Fort Pierce, Fla. (N/A to 1994)
A strong gun-control advocate, urged both the Washington legislature and the U.S. Congress to pass an assault-weapons ban and has worked to close the loophole that doesn't require background checks at gun shows
2003: admitted that busting people for personal marijuana possession was not a top priority of the Seattle police department.
As Seattle police chief, assigned an officer full-time to the drug court, which commuted sentences of drug users who complete medical treatment in lieu of going to jail.
Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner
Title: Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change
Salary: $172,200
Reports to: President Obama
Appointed: January 2009
Agency that might have handled similar issues: EPA
Coordinates energy and climate policy, emphasizing regulation and conservation.
Was Environmental Protection Agency administrator in the Clinton administration (1993-2000)
Was Florida Secretary of the Environment (1991 to 1993)
Founded and continues to serve as a principal of The Albright Group LLC, a global strategy firm led by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Also a principal of Albright Capital Management, an investment advisory firm that concentrates on emerging markets.
Worked on the Socialist International's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which argues that the global community must work collectively to address environmental policies Described Bush administration as the "worst environmental administration ever"
While orchestrating private discussions between the White House and auto industry officials on vehicle fuel efficiency standards, kept the talks as quiet as possible. Mary Nichols, the head of the California Air Resources Board, said, "We put nothing in writing, ever."
2003: A federal judge held the Environmental Protection Agency in contempt for destroying computer files during the Clinton administration that had been sought by a conservative legal foundation. U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth also ordered the EPA to pay the Landmark Legal Foundation's legal fees and costs because the agency disobeyed his order to preserve the electronic records of Browner, the former EPA chief.
Contemplating VAT tax to pay for Obama's huge spending bills
Facing a historic national debt that President Obama correctly characterized as "unsustainable," yet still desiring to implement some sort of national health-care package, US policymakers, notably Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad and former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, have recently hinted at the possibility of a national sales tax. More specifically, they hint at possible implementation of a national value-added tax (VAT) which would tax at a certain rate the difference between the cost of inputs and the price of the output along each individual step of production.
Beyond the factual objection that a national tax on consumption would fall disproportionately on low-income consumers who spend a greater percentage of their income on consumption goods and save at a lower rate than do higher-income consumers, the VAT is a particularly odious proposal for all consumers because of its effect on overall economic activity.
Browner is a member of the Commission for a Sustainable World Society (CSWS), which is a formal organ of the Socialist International.
Socialist International, an umbrella group for many of the world's social democratic political parties such as Britain's Labor Party, says it supports socialism and is harshly critical of U.S. policies.
The group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, the organization's action arm on climate change, says the developed world must reduce consumption and commit to binding and punitive limits on greenhouse gas emissions.
At the Congress of the Socialist International held last June 30-July2, the CSWS officially resolved that "market solutions alone are insufficient and will not provide the financial support and resources necessary to achieve the required combination of deep emission reduction, adaptation to already changing climate conditions, energy security and equitable and environmentally sound economic development." Again, that's bureaucratese. It means that international taxes should be imposed to provide the "resources necessary" to impose what the CSWS repeatedly refers to as a 'regime" against "global warming." By appointing Browner to a White House post, Obama has at the least implicitly endorsed an utterly radical socialist agenda for his administration's environmental policy. The incoming chief executive thus strengthens critics who contend environmental policies aren't really about protecting endangered species or preserving virgin lands, but rather expanding government power and limiting individual freedom.
Government Performance Czar - Jeffrey Zients
Title: Chief Performance Officer
Salary: unknown
Reports to: Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orzag
Appointed: April 2009
Confirmed by the Senate (as deputy director for management for the OMB): June 19, 2009
Agency that might have handled similar issues: OMB
Charged with cutting costs and finding best practices throughout government.
Has never worked in government before
Was a chief executive and former management consultant
Was founder of Portfolio Logic (2004 to present); Partner of the Washington Baseball Club (2004 to 2006); CEO of the Advisory Board (1998 to 2004)
Has donated just over $90,000 to political campaigns since 1999, almost all of which went to Democratic candidates
Pay Czar - Kenneth R. Feinberg
Title: Special Master on executive pay Salary: reportedly receiving no compensation for his work.
Reports to: Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner
Appointed: June 2009
Department that might have handled similar issues: Treasury
Named to examine compensation practices at companies that have been bailed out more than once by the federal government
Oversaw the payouts to the families of the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks
Was the chief administrator to the Hokie Spirit Memorial Fund, which commemorates the students who died in the April 2007 shooting rampage at Virginia Tech
Founder and managing partner of Feinberg Rozen LLP (1992 to present), law firm specializing in mediation
Was Chief of staff for Sen. Edward Kennedy (1978 to 1980)
While working with the Feinberg Group, donated over $150,000, nearly all of which has gone to Democratic candidates and political action committees. In 2007, donated $2,300 to 2008 presidential candidate Rudolph Giuliani ®.
Regulatory Czar - Cass R. Sunstein *
Title: Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs
Salary: unknown
Reports to: Office of Management and Budget head Peter Orszag
Appointed: January 2009
Nomination was sent to Senate on April 20, 2009 - no action yet taken
Agency that might have handled similar issues: OMB
Will be responsible for reviewing draft regulations and assessing their costs and benefits
Is a Harvard Law School professor; prior to that, was a professor at the Univ. of Chicago Law School (1981-2008)
Academic specialties: constitutional law, administrative law, and regulatory policy
Obama: "Cass is not only a valued advisor, he is a dear friend"
Known for advancing a field called "law and behavioral economics" that seeks to shape law and policy around the way research shows people actually behave; though embraced by conservatives, critics say it fails to account for the sometimes less-than-rational aspects of human behavior.
In his 2002 book, Republic.com, discussed the drawbacks of limitless choices on the Internet that allow people to seek out only like-minded people and opinions that merely fortify their own views; he talked about the idea of the government requiring sites to link to opposing views. He later came to realize it was a "bad idea."
In his 2004 book, Animal Rights, suggested that animals ought to be able to bring suit, with private citizens acting as their representatives, to ensure that animals are not treated in a way that violates current law.
In a 2007 speech at Harvard he called for banning hunting in the U.S. The American Conservative Union started a website, Stop Sunstein, in an effort to keep him out of the White House.
Sunstein has also supported outlawing sport hunting, giving animals the legal right to file lawsuits and using government regulations to phase out meat consumption.
The center quotes Sunstein's 2007 speech at Harvard University, where he argued in favor of "eliminating current practices such as … meat eating" and proposed: "We ought to ban hunting, I suggest, if there isn't a purpose other than sport and fun. That should be against the law. It's time now."
According to the group, Sunstein was editor of the 2004 book "Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions" that said "animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives … Any animals that are entitled to bring suit would be represented by (human) counsel, who would owe guardian-like obligations and make decisions, subject to those obligations, on their clients' behalf."
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., who held up Sunstein's nomination worries that Sunstein's odd legal views may someday lead to a farmer having to defend himself in court against a lawsuit filed on behalf of his chickens or pigs.
Science Czar - John Holdren
Title: Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisers on Science and Technology
Salary: unknown
Reports to: President Obama
Appointed: December 2008
Confirmed by Senate: March 19, 2009
Agency or department that might have handled similar issues: Energy
Top adviser to Obama on science and technology, issues that are increasingly relevant to other issues such as homeland security, energy and environmentalism
Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy and Director, Program in Science, Technology, and Public Policy at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government (1996-2009); Harvard University Professor of Environmental Science and Public Policy (1996-2009); University of California, Berkeley Professor of Energy and Resources Emeritus (1996 to present)
Studied aerospace engineering and plasma physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology - where he earned his BS and MS - and Stanford University, where he received his doctorate in 1970
Is an outspoken advocate of the need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and believes the United States should sign the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty.
In a 2008 New York Times op-ed, Holdren called climate change skeptics "dangerous" members of a "denier fringe."
In 1971, co-authored a paper in Global Ecology suggesting "some form of ecocatastrophe, if not thermonuclear war, seems almost certain to overtake us before the end of the century."
Some conservative media outlets have called attention to a book Holdren co-authored in 1977 titled Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Environment. The book reportedly includes this statement: "population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution." Holdren's office says he "does not now and never has been an advocate of compulsory abortions or other repressive measures to limit fertility."
We at Neville have dubbed Holdren Dr. Strangelove.
Holdren has stated: "The Fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences, and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being."
He also wants to put sterilants into the water to control population.
Holdren is a globalist who has endorsed "surrender of sovereignty" to "a comprehensive Planetary Regime" that would control all the world's resources, direct global redistribution of wealth, oversee the "de-development" of the West, control a World Army and taxation regime, and enforce world population limits. He has castigated the United States as "the meanest of wealthy countries," written a justification of compulsory abortion for American women, advocated drastically lowering the U.S. standard of living, and left the door open to trying global warming "deniers" for crimes against humanity.
In his 1995 Nobel Prize acceptance speech Holdren stated "The post-Cold-War world needs a more powerful United Nations, probably with a standing volunteer force -- owing loyalty directly to the UN rather than to contingents from individual nations."
Holdren states the UN must mandate "A requirement for the early establishment of a substantial price on carbon emissions in all countries, whether by a carbon tax or a tradable permit approach."
Holdren gave a clear indication of his philosophical views in the 1977 book Ecoscience, which he co-authored with Paul and Anne Ehrlich. [1] In its pages, the authors noted, "The neo-Malthusiasn view proposes...population limitation and redistribution of wealth." They concluded, "On these points, we find ourselves firmly in the neo-Malthusian camp" (p. 954). Economist Thomas Malthus is one of the most literally anti-human theorists in human history. He viewed overpopulation as the fount of all woe, but one which could be staunched with enough blood. In "An Essay on the Principle of Population" Malthus wrote, "All the children who are born, beyond what would be required to keep up the population to a desired level, must necessarily perish, unless room be made for them by the death of grown persons...if we dread the too frequent visitation of the horrid form of famine, we should sedulously encourage the other forms of destruction, which we compel nature to use...and court the return of the plague."
Holdren and the Ehrlichs maintained "there exists ample authority under which population growth could be regulated." Hiding behind the passive voice, they note, "it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing constitutionif the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society." To underscore they mean business, they conclude, "If some individuals contribute to general social deterioration by overproducing children, and if the need is compelling, they can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" (pp. 837-838). Moreover, if the United States government refuses to take proper measures, they authorize the United Nations to take compelling force.
Such a comprehensive Plenetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable...not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes...The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade...The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits...the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits. (p. 943.)
Part of the power wielded by this "Regime" would be in the form of a World Army. The trio wrote that the United States must destroy all its nuclear arsenal. But this would not render us defenseless against Communist aggression. "Security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force...The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization" (p. 917).
The redistribution of blood and treasure were high priorities for Holdren, et. al. They advised the "de-development of overdeveloped countries...should be given top priority" (p. 926), and such nations -- e.g., the United States and the developed West -- should "divert their excess productivity into helping the poorer people of the world rather than exploiting them" (p. 931).
How much wealth redistribution would be sufficient? The authors favorably cited a proposal that "the rich nations devote 20 percent of their GNPs for ten or fifteen years to the task of population control and development of the poor countries." They comment, "We believe an effort of this magnitude is not only justified but essential." (p. 925). Reaffirming the goal in his 1995 Nobel speech, he stretched this to a program "sustained over several decades."
"A means for transferring some of the revenue produced by carbon taxes upon, or permits purchased by, countries and consumers with high incomes and high per capita emissions to countries and consumers with low incomes and low per capita emissions" (pp. 70-72).
In a 1995 article co-written with Paul Ehrlich, he lists among the factors preventing a "sustainable" world such "Underlying human frailties" as "Greed, selfishness, intolerance, and shortsightedness." These, he expounds, "collectively have been elevated by conservative political doctrine and practice (above all in the United States in 1980 92) to the status of a credo."
"Civilians should realize that peace and freedom from tension are not viewed as an ideal situation by many members of the military-industrial-government complex. By and large, professional military officers, especially field grade and higher, hope for an end to international tensions about as fervently as farmers hope for drought" (p. 918).
Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney
Title: Chair of the Recovery Act Transparency and Accountability Board
Salary: unknown
Reports to: Vice President Biden
Appointed: February 2009 Agency that might have handled similar issues: OMB
Leads oversight board that monitors money spent by the stimulus package WHO KNEW THAT ANYBODY WAS WATCHING OVER THE STIMULUS MONEY?
Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr.
Title: White House Director of Urban Affairs
Salary: $158,500
Reports to: President Obama
Appointed: February 2009
Department that might have handled similar issues: Housing and Urban Development
Job entails coordinating transportation and housing initiatives, as well as serving as a conduit for federal aid to economically hard-hit cities.
Has undergraduate degree in world religions from Kings College; became an associate pastor at a Bronx church; earned his master's degree in urban planning from Hunter College
Was Bronx Borough President (2001-2009); President of the National Association of Latino Elected Officials (since 2007); City Council member (1998 to 2000)
Many reporters say he has higher ambitions and will probably run for New York City mayor in the next ten years.
Was an active campaigner for Obama, travelling across the country to speak on his behalf. He focused particularly on states with large Hispanic populations. The NY Daily News reported numerous developers made tens of thousands of dollars in campaign donations to Carrión around the same time he was considering approving their projects in the Bronx.
Diversity Czar - Mark Lloyd
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has announced a new "Chief Diversity Officer," communications attorney Mark Lloyd.
But Doctor of Jurisprudence Lloyd is far more than merely a communications attorney. He was a Senior Fellow at the George Soros-funded Center for American Progress (CAP), for whom he co-wrote a June 2007 report entitled "The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio."
The report rails against the fact that the American people overwhelmingly prefer to listen to conservative (and Christian) talk radio rather than the liberal alternative, and suggests ways the federal government can remedy this free-market created "problem."
Restore local and national caps on the ownership of commercial radio stations.
Ensure greater local accountability over radio licensing.
Require commercial owners who fail to abide by enforceable public interest obligations to pay an estimated $100-million and $250-million each and every year to support public broadcasting. These last two get perilously close to the use of "localism" to silence conservative (and Christian) radio stations, about which we have been warning for quite some time. This financially onerous combination of fines and fees would essentially force many private broadcasters out of business.
Lloyd: "Local public broadcasters and regional and national communications operations should be required to encourage and broadcast diverse views and programs. These programs should include coverage of all local, state and federal government meetings, as well as daily news and public issues programming."
Ron Bloom, the "Manufacturing Czar"--worked for the Steel Workers Union. Is it any wonder that he is in favor of the defeated "card check"? Do you suppose that HE is neutral?
32 "CZARS"--many of them ardent socialist that would make Robert Reich blush. Most of them unexperienced in the private sector. In that regard, they mirror the naivete of O-Bomb-A himself.
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George W Bush Czars..
Faith Czar Director, White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives Willett, Don[73] 2001 Exec order Bush, George W. Faith-Based Czar,
Faith Czar Director, White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives DiIulio, John[74] 2001 Exec order Bush, George W.
Terrorism Czar National coordinator for security, infrastructure protection and counter-terrorism, cabinet level rank removed Clarke, Richard A. [126] 2001 Jan - 2001 Oct Pres appointed[citation needed] Bush, George W.
Terrorism Czar National Director and Deputy National Security Advisor for Combating Terrorism Downing, Wayne[127] 2001 Nov Pres appointed[citation needed] Bush, George W.
Science Czar Science Advisor to the President, Director, White House Office of Science and Technology Policy Marburger, John[121] 2001 Oct - 2009 Jan Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar Special Advisor to the President on Cybersecurity Clarke, Richard A.[37] 2001 October Pres appointed Bush,
AIDS Czar Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy Evertz, Scott[13] 2001-2002 Pres appointed Bush, George W.
Budget czar Director of the White House Office of Management and Budget Daniels, Mitchell E.[27] 2001-2003 Pres Nominated, Senate Confirmed Bush, George W. √
Clean Up Czar Assistant Secretary for Environmental Management, Department of Energy (nuclear clean up) Roberson, Jessie[31] 2001-2004 Pres nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Bioethics Czar Advisor to the President, Chairman of The President's Council on Bioethics Kass, Leon[22] 2001-2005 New position, exec, appointed by Pres Bush,
Reading Czar President's Advisor on Reading First Initiative, Director of Reading Research,
National Institutes of Child Health and Development, Member of the President's Commission on Excellence in Special Education Lyon, G. Reid[114] 2001-2005 Pres. appointed Bush, George W.
Regulatory Czar Director of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs Office of Management and Budget John D. Graham [116] 2001-2006 Pres nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Drug Czar Director National Drug Control Policy Walters, John P.[61] 2001-2009 Pres Appointed with Senate Confirmation Bush, George W. AIDS Czar Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy O'Neill, Joe[14] 2002-2003 Pres appointed Bush, George W.
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar Director, White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives Towey, Jim[75] 2002-2006 Exec order Bush, George W.
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar Executive Director United States Interagency Council on Homelessness Phil Mangano[92] 2002-2008 Pres. appointed Bush, George W.
Budget Czar Director of the White House Office of Management and Budget Bolten, Joshua[28] 2003-2006 Pres nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Global AIDS Czar United States Global AIDS Coordinator Tobias, Randall[82] 2003-2007 Pres appointed[citation needed] Bush, George W.
AIDS Czar Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy Thompson, Carol[15] 2004-2006 Pres appointed Bush, George W.
Bird flu Czar Assistant Secretary of Health and Human Services, Advisor to the President for Public Health Emergency Preparedness Simonson, Stewart[23] 2004-2006 New position, Pres appointed Bush, George W.
Domestic Policy Czar Chief Domestic Policy Coordinator, Assistant to the President and Senior Advisor to the President, White House Deputy Chief of Staff Rove, Karl[53] 2004-2006 Pres appointed Bush, George W.
Health IT Czar National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, Department of Health and Human Services Brailer, David J.[90] 2004-2006 Exec order (new position), appointed by Sec. of HHS Bush, George W.
Manufacturing Czar Assistant Secretary for manufacturing and services, U.S. Commerce Department Frink, Albert[101] 2004-2007 Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Terrorism Czar Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security Brennan, John O. 2004[citation needed] Pres appointed[citation needed] Bush, George W.
Policy Czar Assistant to the President for Policy and Strategic Planning Gerson, Michael[110] 2005-2006 Pres Appointed Bush, George W.
Intelligence Czar Director of National Intelligence Negroponte, John[98] 2005-2007 Congress mandated (new position) Pres. nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Public Diplomacy Czar Special advisor to the President, Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Hughes, Karen[112] 2005-2007 Pres nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Clean Up Czar Assistant Secretary for Environmental Management, United States Department of Energy (nuclear clean up) Rispoli, James[32] 2005-2008 Appointed, Senate confirmed Bush, George W. √
Democracy Czar Deputy National Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy Abrams, Elliott[51] 2005-2008 Pres appointed Bush, George W.
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar Federal Coordinator of Hurricane Katrina Recovery Effort Powell, Donald E.[94] 2005-2008 Pres appointed Bush, George W.
Homeland Security Czar Secretary, U.S. Department of Homeland Security Chertoff, Michael[91] 2005-2009 Pres nominated, Senate Confirmed Bush, George W. Intelligence Czar Director of National Intelligence Mcconnell, John Michael[98] 2005-2009 Pres nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Budget Czar Director Office of Management and Budget Portman, Rob [29] 2006-2007 Pres nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W
Abstinence Czar Administrator of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) Tobias, Randall[8] 2006-2007 Pres Nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Birth Control Czar Deputy Assistant Secretary of Population Affairs, Department of Health and
Human Services Keroack, Erik [24] 2006-2007 Pres Appointed George W. Bush
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar Director, White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives Hein, Jay[76] 2006-2008 Exec order Bush, George W.
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar Special coordinator to respond to health effects of September 11 attacks, World Trade Center (WTC) Medical Monitoring and Treatment Program also served as Director, National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health Howard, John[89] 2006-2008 Pres Appointed Bush, George W.
Global AIDS Czar Coordinator of U.S.Government Activities to Combat HIV/AIDS Globally, with the rank of Ambassador Dybul, Mark [83] 2006-2009 Pres nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Regulatory Czar Director of the Office of Information and Regulatory AffairsOffice of Management and Budget Dudley, Susan[117] 2006-2009 Nominee failed to win Senate confirmation 2 attempts, stayed in office as recess appointment by President Bush Bush, George W.
War Czar Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Iraq and Afghanistan Lute, Douglas[130] 2007 New Position, Pres appointed - confirmed as Lt. General on June 28, 2007 but not as "war czar" adviser to the president Bush, George W.
Food Safety Czar Assistant Commissioner for Food Protection Acheson, David W. K.[81] 2007-2008 Pres. appointed Bush, George W.
Manufacturing Czar Assistant Secretary for manufacturing and services, U.S. Commerce Department Sutton, William G.[102] 2007-2008 Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar Director, National Cyber Security Center Beckstrom, Rod[38] 2008 - 2009 Pres appointed[citation needed] Bush, George W.
Bank Bailout Czar United States Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Financial Stability Kashkari, Neel[20]. 2008-2009 New position, Pres nominated, Senate confirmed Bush, George W.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars
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The wikipedia one that alci posted shows a lot (not all though) of the ones W. appointed were confirmed by the senate, which in any appointed position of power is the way it should be IMO.
Jim's wall of text didn't have any mention of Obamas appointees being confirmed (or not) by the senate.
Not that they weren't, Jim claims they weren't but I am too lazy too look it up.
As much as I hate to defend W, I still call things evenly.
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(jimhanson @ Sep. 02 2011,5:51 pm)
QUOTE Jim-- QUOTE Irish doesn't think that Obambi is a liberal. Irish original quote QUOTE If you really think about all these things, only the people who are far right can view Obama as being a radical liberal, because he simply is not. Irish NEW quote QUOTE You're misquoting me again, I explained he is not a radical liberal and I even pointed out reasons why. Back to English class with you. I said that you DON'T think he is a liberal. You confirm your opinion by saying QUOTE I explained he is not a radical liberal QED.
It's the word radical that you're still having trouble with. One word does make a difference, or as Rush would say, "words mean things".
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(jimhanson @ Sep. 02 2011,6:27 pm)
QUOTE QUOTE Surprising, but unprecedented? Not exactly, and it's only a bad thing if it's a dem that's signing the bill, otherwise you frequently blame the Congress for it (unless it's a republican House doing the spending) Blame Congress? Yes. The House alone sets spending and tax policy--the only thing that the Executive Branch (that's the President, for all the Donks) can do is sign it or not. The BIGGER picture is spending by Congress--check this graph. And where will Obambi's spending as a percentage of GDP come in? OFF THE CHARTS, at about 102%. Note the spending REDUCTIONS when conservatives took over the House in 1994, and the big INCREASE under Pelosi. There's no denying it--Obambi/Pelosi/Reid have taken spending to a new level.
You're making my point. You blame Congress, but now that the repubs control the House you decide to blame Obama instead. The next time there's a republcan President I'm betting the budget won't be their fault and you'll go back to blaming the Congress.
Why do you still blame Pelosi, but not a negative word about Boehner?
You say the House alone sets spending and tax policy, yet in the very next paragraph you refer to it as "Obambi's spending".
So many flip-flops, it's like I'm at the beach!
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(jimhanson @ Sep. 02 2011,7:49 pm)
QUOTE Jim QUOTE his socialist Czars. Irish-- QUOTE Again, this is classic talking points from the repub spin machine. If you have an adviser or a director, you can call them a Czar if you want to use conservative newspeak. If I start a thread and refer to you as a Czar of the airport, how are you going to prove me wrong? I can even say you're a socialist czar if I want, and the statement is still correct. If not, feel free to prove it wrong. Challenge accepted. Did Obambi NOT create more "Czar" positions than any previous president? Look at the record of these "Czars"--people that not only are advisors to the President, but are unelected and unconfirmed power brokers in government. We have Van Jones (since sacked) an avowed Communist, as "Green Jobs Czar." We have an avowed homosexual as the "Safe Schools Czar"--author of "The Queering of America" and advocate for teaching ALL government school children about homosexuality.
I didn't ask you to copy & paste a list from Glenn Beck's website (I Googled parts of your post and the source is naturally Glenn Beck). My post was regarding the label of Socialist czar, and that if someone wanted they could easily consider you a socialist czar. Since you're in charge of something in which the means of production is government controlled. I said feel free to prove me wrong, and somehow that turned into a diatribe about Van Jones, something about trying to turn the kids gay, etc. 
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For all of you who don't like Obama... Who would you replace him with? ?? So far not many good choices...  .....ned
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