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grassman 
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Posted on: Aug. 18 2011,7:18 pm |
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(Santorini @ Aug. 18 2011,10:12 am)
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(librarian @ Aug. 17 2011,9:58 pm)
QUOTE How many jobs would be lost if these were all eliminated? If all of what were eliminated?  ?
OK, read slowly, and think about each word. Breeze started this post about all of the cuts that the Republicans want to make. Go back, collect yourself and read. Hit the back button. 
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Santorini
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Posted on: Aug. 19 2011,11:34 pm |
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(grassman @ Aug. 18 2011,7:18 pm)
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(librarian @ Aug. 17 2011,9:58 pm)
QUOTE How many jobs would be lost if these were all eliminated? If all of what were eliminated? ? OK, read slowly, and think about each word. Breeze started this post about all of the cuts that the Republicans want to make. Go back, collect yourself and read. Hit the back button.
Like I said grassman; (try to wrap your head around it!)
WHAT JOBS???
Apparently NON-essential ones:dunce:
So your idea is to continue to finance non-essential positions? (continued BIG-government-gravy-train positions at the tax-payers expense)...then tax the he** out of the rich so they can create more non-essential positions? That about right  Yea, lets tax the he** out of the rich and watch them relocate and then lets increase the corporate taxes (since we are only the 2nd highest corporate taxed country IN THE WORLD; lets shoot for #1) so companies continue to move their corporate headquarters to other more corporate-friendly countries then we can eliminate ALL the potential jobs here at
home and government can create more non-essential positions with all the tax $$$$ they get from the rich that are left! Can you say total COLLAPSE!
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grassman
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Posted on: Aug. 20 2011,6:30 am |
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Don't get me wrong, I am all for making some cuts to get this budget under control. Look at what some of these are.
*Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings
This does employ a lot of people. This does help a lot of people who would otherwise freeze to death.
Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.
If we can develop other countries, should we not spend some on our own? Look around, we need it.
Why can they cut stuff like this and yet keep the Reagan Library and such fully funded? What does the library do for anyone? I am looking at what they choose to cut and what it means.
They could cut a lot if they would just change the way our govt did daily business. Why do the ones who need help have to suffer.
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Grinning_Dragon
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Posted on: Aug. 20 2011,7:39 am |
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QUOTE *Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings
This does employ a lot of people. This does help a lot of people who would otherwise freeze to death.
Do we really need a federal agency telling people how to keep warm when all it takes is some god damn common sense? Are people that dumb now that they have to rely on a fed govt to tell them what to think and how to go about it? sad, just sad.
QUOTE Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.
If we can develop other countries, should we not spend some on our own? Look around, we need it.
Isn't this more a States issue than a federal one? Why is it your responsibility for another states failing infrastructure? It isn't.
QUOTE Why can they cut stuff like this and yet keep the Reagan Library and such fully funded? What does the library do for anyone? I am looking at what they choose to cut and what it means.
You are absolutely right, why didn't it get cut. Why is it the taxpayers responsibility to fund a presidents library, should the ex pres be responsible for that? I say if a business cannot make it on its own then it deserves to fail.
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Posted on: Aug. 21 2011,2:02 pm |
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Grassman...
***Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings
This does employ a lot of people. This does help a lot of people who would otherwise freeze to death. ****
Grinning_Dragon · Posted on Aug. 20 2011,7:39 am
***Do we really need a federal agency telling people how to keep warm when all it takes is some god damn common sense? Are people that dumb now that they have to rely on a fed govt to tell them what to think and how to go about it? sad, just sad.***
I think you are both wrong.
I guess I believed and have been taught that the Federal Government sets the expectations and expenses of the individual States in this country FIRST, and the State's respond to this based upon their individual budgets.
Therefore, if a State is subjected to a Federal Mandate of Law that every household in their State has to have a refridgerator that meets the Federal Guidelines of being "Federally" energy efficient...if a State can not AFFORD to comply with this IMPROVED STANDARD solely within their own separate STATE budget, they are afforded the opportunity to apply for Federal GRANTS of money to afford to do what the Federal Government is demanding of them to do.
The FACT is...if the U.S. FEDERAL Government passes a law that every household in every State in the U.S. can't have a refridgerator older than the year 2010 any longer according to the new and improved guidelines based upon "energy efficient" appliances...NOT a SINGLE U.S. State could afford to meet this "Federal" condition and expectation because they set aside enough money in their State budget to buy a refridgerator for every person in their State's household who qualifies as being "poor" according to Federal and State Poverty Guidelines.
Therefore, the Federal Government allows individual States to request financial assistance GRANTS to "help" them do as they are being told they have to according to the Feds.
I really don't care which political party "creates" this type of issue of Federal, State and Local expenditures...I only care about the innocent citizens who are BLAMED and SHUNNED for not being able to buy a new refridgertor.
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http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u...tKJudkA
"The government could raise $700 billion by either taking half of everything earned by the bottom 50% or by raising the marginal tax rate on the top two percent." Guess which approach is more appealing to our so-called leaders?
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Posted on: Aug. 22 2011,11:38 am |
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^Another reason to ignore this forum. Santorini is simply parroting things Roger Ailes puts in her brain. In other words what she's saying is the boat is sinking and everybody is desperately bailing water but the rich guy doesn't have to lift a finger to help us bail water. Why?
Well, because the boats gonna sick anyway so why does the rich guy have to help us bail water? It's not gonna help much anyway.
This forum is total waste and dead for all practical purposes.
Santorini can't even understand evolution and basic science! She SURE isn't gonna grasp something like the economy, that's math. 
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