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irisheyes 
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Posted on: Jul. 21 2011,12:54 am |
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(Common Citizen @ Jul. 19 2011,11:41 pm)
QUOTE The "wealthy" in this country already pay the majority of the taxes.
Yeah, they do. But they always have. It isn't a question of who will pay the most of the taxes, that's obvious. It's the rates and brackets that will be decided on. You can argue taxes are bad, but all that "say no to higher taxes" hogwash went out the window when all they were trying to do was avoid progressive taxes (income, estate) in favor of regressive taxes (sales, property, sin taxes, fees, etc.).
I posted the historical rates in another thread, the wartime tax rate of the wealthy was either double or triple what it is for the past decade. So my question to you is: Do you think that might have something to do with the debt? Income Tax brackets & rates: 1913-2011
Although neocons often blame entitlements, the highest tax rate in 1932 was 68%, and that was many years before entitlements even started making any expenditures. If I remember correctly Ida May didn't even cash her first Social Security check until 1940. Medicaid and Medicare weren't started until much later, so the incredibly high taxes of these periods were just for defense, infrastructure, education, farm subsidies, FHA, etc.
Anyway, sorry for rambling, but feel free to answer the question above.
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jul. 22 2011,5:51 pm |
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WINNING!! 
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Santorini
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2011,11:23 pm |
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(irisheyes @ Jul. 15 2011,9:38 am)
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(amyzone @ Jul. 14 2011,8:56 am)
QUOTE This is my Facebook status for today... Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it, the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your own pay, or all of Congress, to save much more money for our country? Why use the Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits?  I know...  What difference will it make to stop paying politicians? We stop the pay for an entire year to all members of Congress and the President, and we're talking about between one and two hundred million... Look at the budget figures and tell me how that will do anything. Also, why cut their pay if they're only doing exactly what their constituents told them to do? If the debt ceiling does not get raised there will not be money to pay government employees (civilians and soldiers) or other obligations. SS & Medicare could easily be in the same category since by law the trust fund is not in a "lock-box", it has been loaned in what was thought to be a safe investment-- the federal government. Also, if the employees of these agencies are government workers, I don't know if they'll even be able to issue those payments or Medicare reimbursements to providers. The nation decided to not get new revenue (taxes), but still spent far more than the revenue that came in... And voila, we have debt. Without more debt, and without more revenue, we default on expenses. So, Obama decides to play Captain Obvious and point this out to the American people, and somehow they're outraged by learning this. 
Some Americans are only enraged by this because HE is the one quoted as saying raising the debt ceiling is a sign of poor leadership...then HE voted against it!
Is that any oxymoron or a hypocrite 
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Santorini
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Posted on: Jul. 23 2011,11:34 pm |
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(alcitizens @ Jul. 18 2011,9:30 am)
QUOTE Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis President Obama earned the most generous approval ratings for his handling of the weeks-old negotiations, but still more people said they disapproved (48 percent) than approved (43 percent) of what he has done and said. CBS News senior White House correspondent Bill Plante reports there was no visible progress over the weekend, despite warnings from debt rating agencies that the nation's credit rating could drop, even if there is a deal, if government spending isn't cut. Congressional leaders' inability to convince their own party members that concessions are necessary is likely driving the dismal approval for lawmakers involved in the testy negotiations. Approval drops to 31 percent for the Democrats in Congress, and only 21 percent of the people surveyed said they approved of Republicans' handling of the negotiations, while 71 percent disapprove. Even half of the Republican respondents (51 percent) voiced disapproval of how members of their own party in Congress are handling the talks. Far fewer Democrats expressed disapproval of their own party's handling (32 percent) or President Obama's (22 percent) of the urgent quest to raise the nation's debt limit ahead of a looming default on Aug. 2 if action isn't taken. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20080250-503544.html
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jul. 27 2011,9:55 am |
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McConnell told reporters after his party’s weekly luncheon. “So I’m prepared to accept something less than perfect, because perfect is not achievable.'
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59988.html
Republicans are so stupid.. Compromise isn't perfect, neither side gets everything they want. Now they're going to get less cuts than what was offered by Obama..
And we pay these morons $175,000+ a year.. 
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Santorini
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Posted on: Jul. 27 2011,10:21 am |
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Where is the leadership?
Why didnt Obama in his address attempt to unite instead of divide?
Why didnt he admit the sides cannot come together on this so we need to put aside our personal differences and work together for the people of this nation?
Why didnt he say we are at a critical point as a nation and we need to be united in our efforts?
But no...the perpetual campaigner just ranted on in his own biased, partisan script-reading way 
Ya wonder why they cannot get anything done
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alcitizens
Albert Lea
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Posted on: Jul. 27 2011,11:39 am |
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'I can’t do this job unless you’re behind me,' Boehner said to House Republicans.
Scrambling for votes on his troubled deficit package, Speaker John Boehner bluntly told wavering GOP lawmakers Wednesday morning to “get your ass in line” behind his debt ceiling bill.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60022.html#ixzz1TKAaWdWI
Republicans Eating Their Own 
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