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Through all of this fiasco I have one thought that keeps coming to my small mind.

Why did/does he or any city employee for that matter have a city issued credit card?

The county issues them too.

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With proper controls and procedures there are several good reasons for a government to use credit cards.
1) in most cases they provide an equal or better audit trail than do things like petty cash funds for small purchases.
2) in a the cost of managing a paper system such as those used by many governments is more expensive and less sustainable.
For routine purchasing they can be easier and less time intensive, i.e. my custodian needs a new broom from Ace Hardware do I a) pay his hourly wage to come in for a petty cash disbursement or to request a purchase order or do I trust him in a properly controlled and audited environment to take his credit card, make the purchase and submit the itemized receipt the next time he is n the office?
Think about it, which do see more about in the media rip offs using cash or purchasing abuses or credit card abuses by public employees.
If Mr Norman is guilty of something it may be the use of a credit card which provides substantial evidence. It may also establish his innocence.
The key is proper procedure and controls.
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Well, at the very least, let me say that I fully agree with the Tribune Editorial Board’s position

I apologize to the Editorial Board for not taking the time

I highly value a good community newspaper

the Albert Lea Tribune is a credit to the community

I hold no grudge for the Tribune Editorial Board

I would like the chance to restore that trust with the Tribune staff

The Tribune is the city’s voice and its forum for community conversation
so sorry

The Tribune must love this one?

How many times can a guy suck up in one editorial?


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maybe since he is still getting paid they should have him come in and scub toilets and floors, let him work a little for his money

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I don't understand why Norman is on paid leave.  

Why wasn't he fired?  

Any other resident who lives in the City of A.L. would have been fired by every other local business in A.L./Freeborn County for what Norman is being accused and criminally charged with as an employee for the City.  

Why isn't he required to seek unemployment benefits?  To do job searches and PROVE he is trying to be a productive member of Albert Lea, MN?  

Doesn't the City of A.L. pay into unemployment tax?  

I honestly don't know the particulars and that is why I ask.   :blush:

It just seems WRONG to me that the Citizens of A.L. are paying Norman who is being charged criminally with misusing "A.L. Citizens Funds."

It seems WRONG that Norman is going to live comfortably because of being paid by the City of A.L. & Citizens to be a "full time Defendant" through the Judicial System "processes" and "time line?"  

We all know that the rights to due process for Defendant's can be lengthy, lasting at least a year or two years before a trial or plea bargain is even entertained in the process towards the "finalization" of a criminal case.  

Are the Citizens of A.L. going to be expected to provide financially for the "comfort" of Norman along with paying someone else to do the job he was hired to do for the City of A.L. and it's Citizens?  

If that's the case here in this City/County, it's defiantly time for something BETTER than this CRAP!
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simply put crooks paying crooks heres to you al :finger:
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MADDOG · Posted on Sep. 04 2010,2:58 pm

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The Tribune must love this one?


Although I like the Tribune's position against Norman, I can't help but wonder if they only took this position because Norman was an "outsider" to begin with.  

I have yet to see an editorial against and in forceful opposition of an "insider" of the "community" and those involved as "government groupies."  The Tribune is either wishy washy or silent during those times.  

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How many times can a guy suck up in one editorial?


Norman is doing very well being a suck up and an "outsider" claiming to have had NO INTENTION to DECEIVE A.L. and it's Citizens.  

It doesn't matter what Norman's intentions were.  He obviously isn't  morally intelligent enough to comprehend and understand the contract he signed with the City of A.L.  

That's scary!!!
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Although I like the Tribune's position against Norman, I can't help but wonder if they only took this position because Norman was an "outsider" to begin with.  

I have yet to see an editorial against and in forceful opposition of an "insider" of the "community" and those involved as "government groupies."  The Tribune is either wishy washy or silent during those times.
I suspected that the Tribune went after him for the same reasoning.  He hasn't had the chance to become a 'charter member' of the leadership community that keeps us in the national news.

What he is accused of is relatively petty.  I don't think every employer would have fired him solely on that reason if he had always seemed to be a model employee for a lengthy period, but a fresh employee as he is.  Yep.  Any good employer would have terminated him immediately.  He would have been escorted to the door to make sure he didn't run off with the door knob.  He wouldn't have even been allowed to clear his desk.  They would have done that for him.  He would have had to ask for his job back if he had the courage.
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It just seems WRONG to me that the Citizens of A.L. are paying Norman who is being charged criminally with misusing "A.L. Citizens Funds."
 It's because they can't without fear of being sued.  The law and legal system tell an employer who he hired and who he can't fire.

This doesn't affect me directly.  The city hasn't annexed me yet.  :laugh:

I just have to wonder though.  Why would Moen of all people be worried about the city manager borrowing a little old amount of $2300?


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she wants to make a lot noise about him so nobody is looking at her :finger:
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It does seem ironic that the city finance director is leading the charges against the new city manager.

Does it totally escape her that her credit rating might be crap if taxpayers weren't giving her and her husband a free ride with Tiger Hills?

Legalized theft - approved by a clueless city council - includiing vern rasmussen, george marin, etc.
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